-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: shamrock@netcom.com, liberty@gate.net, cypherpunks@toad.com Date: Wed Sep 18 11:57:32 1996 Lucky wrote:

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Jim Ray wrote:

[my stuff about a small "victory" elided.]

Nope. It is a Cypherpunk loss. The use of the term "key recovery" for GAK now fully obfuscates the distinction between accessing a backup copy by the legitimate owner (or his estate, employer, etc.) and GAK. Many PKIs will support the former type of key recovery. And for good reasons. Thanks to the brainwashers using the same term for GAK, it will now become impossible to tell from a basic description of a PKI if it supports GAK or not. Furthermore, those who oppose the latter type of key recovery (us!), will be pushed further into the fringe by the media now being able to mix up our arguments against GAK with arguing against true key recovery. [Do you notice the weird constructs I have to use to distinguish the two meanings? One of them being new...]

Upon further reflection, I agree with Lucky. I will say that the _really_ bad news is that our opponents seem to be getting smarter. <sigh> Or else I'm just getting dumber. :( Also: If any more of you have comments for Judge Kozinski, please send them to me soon. Comments from stable nyms (such as you, Lucky) are especially appreciated, and with your permission I will include this message. Please tell me if you want me to include your e-mail address in the message to Judge Kozinski. TIA. JMR Regards, Jim Ray -- DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy "As govt.s grow arithmetically, corruption grows exponentially." -- Ray's Law of official corruption. Defeat the Duopoly! Stop the Browne out. Harry Browne for President. Jo Jorgensen for Vice-president. http://www.HarryBrowne96.org/ http://www.twr.com/stbo ___________________________________________________________________ PGP id.E9BD6D35 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 I will generate a new (and bigger) PGP key-pair on election night. <mailto:liberty@gate.net> http://www.shopmiami.com/prs/jimray ___________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMkAb8m1lp8bpvW01AQGwDQP/Wz8Bw27oXVzNt4gusljym5ardHFgCNDR A3N8kXcL7rGRs2SFDBNYlodcTSh60d1FJTvLQ77oolMPWp3oQygZ+HLFEhwHK/GG tt1VPavPhvpdPiXoDOcZKUm/vRobAJrvkfUEaeqI8hmzCVBq5YS/4m4KaD3XquWO w0IyCViMVmw= =ntqD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----