Re: Oil Change software snoops through hard drive
At 8:31 PM 6/23/96, Alan Lewine wrote:
<<I wrote:
But this isn't MS's RegWiz. It's capabilities sound much greater, and it's not clear how to opt out, etc. >>Tim May replied: <<Not buying it and not installing it would appear to be an easy way to "opt out.">> Maybe i'm confused, but oil change sounds like a mole that can burrow unbidden into user's disks. I don't think user installation is required, or else it will auto install the user code on installation of whatever software has licensed it.
If I understand your comments (the strange wrapping doesn't make it easy), you are confusing Oil Change with a virus or worm. It's a commercial product, offering a (putative) service to those who buy it. One "opts out" by not buying and installing it. There may be privacy implications, but then there are privacy implications in all sorts of other areas. Such as filling out a loan request, applying for a credit card, visiting a doctor, etc. I'm of course not saying that these privacy implications are not worth discussing, and do not vary from example to example in seriousness, only that Oil Change hardly appears to be a significant threat. To repeat, no one is forced to buy and install Oil Change, and it certainly doesn't copy itself onto the machines of unsuspecting users. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
At 8:31 PM 6/23/96, Alan Lewine wrote:
Maybe i'm confused, but oil change sounds like a mole that can burrow unbidden into user's disks. I don't think user installation is required,
It's a commercial product, offering a (putative) service to those who buy it. One "opts out" by not buying and installing it.
I thought Alan was implying that Oil Change might be licensed by other software vendors, and then supplied as a "service" without warnings. For instance, one might purchase the NiftyKeen Win95 graphics editor, and find in a footnote on page 58 of the manual that the product will automatically update itself unless the user explicitly refuses the Customer Convenience Package during installation. In any case, I don't think it's a bad idea to point out the potential problems -- some people just don't notice these things unless the implications are spelled out in at least as much detail as the glowing marketer fluff. regards, `=-`=-`=-`=- -='-='-='-=' Jennifer Mansfield-Jones http://www.rust.net/~strix/strix.html strix@rust.net PGP key ------^ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMc5xc0xVmNNM34OxAQH2DAQAxiAj+CR7okA5nLCI54GYoESNUKO1wX8D geD2L4UHtidJQ1dbSJmhRAggMGnHVpOH3JuPTDzSV45m+O1o8GXIuUYqGMzmiFhZ LrDiV7l/RTWxoFPVE8M3e6BiH6IMShe3ZHXPkP4q4w0RALJMSYK0YYq3EX3ji+1B 86tpWojLRzk= =9rDr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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