Tim May is RIGHT!!!
I'm sorry I can't say so under my real name, but I *vehemently agree* with Tim May about the authoritarian, heavy handed, generally outrageous egotism of Eric Hughes of recent. This is REALLY UPSETTING. Eric should be ASHAMED OF HIMSELF for strutting around like a peacock. he is EMBODYING THE DICTATORIAL APPROACH HE CLAIMS TO DEFY VIA CYPHERPUNK PHILOSOPHY. this is truly the most HYPOCRITICAL AND EGOMANIACAL action I have seen by anyone in recent times on this list. Tim May will leave the list? GOOD FOR YOU, TIM. Get the hell out of here. Eric Hughes may have had some good ideas ONCE UPON A TIME but hasn't kept up his end of the bargain of the cypherpunk agenda for a LONG, LONG TIME. just a WASHED-UP HAS BEEN, who defies the very ideals that he claims to espouse in the most dictatorial manner possible. oh, what's this? you're just going to DELAY the messages that don't have signatures? well, I'm sure the government would just love to slightly DELAY THE MAIL of people who don't have the proper ESCROWED KEYS. what's this? you aren't going to move to any more "serious" measures, such as actually BANNING UNSIGNED MAIL, at least, NOT YET? oh, THANK YOU, MR. ALMIGHTY GOD OF CYBERSPACE. ah, I'm sure Louis Freeh feels the same way---we aren't proposing any minor change that PREVENTS YOUR FREEDOMS, are we? gosh, the government is starting to look awfully nice in comparison to the TYRANNY OF A DICTATOR. this scene is getting REALLY STALE. oh, Mr. CYPHERPUNK FOUNDER, please tell me once again how you started this list, and how the volumes of posts by the public are really YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY, and this is YOUR LIST. we are your "guests"???? BULLSHIT. any host that treats his guests like this is NOT A HOST. this is not graciousness but the crabby and cranky bossiness of a STELLAR INGRATE and a EGOTISTICAL JERK.
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I'm sorry I can't say so under my real name, but I *vehemently agree* with Tim May about the authoritarian, heavy handed, generally outrageous egotism of Eric Hughes of recent. This is REALLY UPSETTING. Eric should be ASHAMED OF HIMSELF for strutting around like a peacock. he is EMBODYING THE DICTATORIAL APPROACH HE CLAIMS TO DEFY VIA CYPHERPUNK PHILOSOPHY. this is truly the most HYPOCRITICAL AND EGOMANIACAL action I have seen by anyone in recent times on this list.
Note that I have made no such claims. While I don't like the sound of the proposal, for various reasons, and while I didn't care for the "If Eric says it is so, then it is so" sycophancy, I can't find any evidence that Eric was strutting around like a peacock, etc.
Tim May will leave the list? GOOD FOR YOU, TIM. Get the hell out of here. Eric Hughes may have had some
This is unlikely, as it sounds like the worst-case version of the proposal has been shelved. I happen to think that this "flame war," as some have characterizied it, has made more apparent the difficulties many on the list (perhaps most, as the Silent Majority is probably not in a better position, it seems to me) have in routinely signing posts. I like the "under oath" points Mike Duvos made today. Rishab suggested we should talk about other things. Well, nothing is stopping folks from doint so. I take the heated debate about this "sign or else" to be a sign of health; at least some topics can still generate furious debate. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Cypherpunks list: majordomo@toad.com with body message of only: subscribe cypherpunks. FAQ available at ftp.netcom.com in pub/tcmay
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