That URL seems to be incorrect. The article is at http://www.pretext.com/nov97/shorts/short3.htm -Lance At 9:40 AM -0600 11/29/97, TruthMonger wrote:

http://www.pretext.com/nov97/short3.htm

"Don't get me wrong. I'm not a technophobe. I just think people need to practice safe surfing," Cottrell says. "In some ways the Anonymizer is the virtual condom."

From: 'The Anonymizer'--by Clay Hathorn

---------------------------------------------------------- Lance Cottrell loki@infonex.com PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server. http://www.infonex.com/~loki/ "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come." --Nietzsche ----------------------------------------------------------

At 11:24 PM 11/29/1997 EST, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

What will Cottrell do if someone uses his anonymizer(R)[TM] to connect to someone's web server many times in a row, requesting the same pages, and the admins of said server whine about "denial of service" attacks?

The Anonymizer has blocking capability to take care of web pages whose administrators don't want anonymous users. I don't know if the Anonymizer automatically blocks sites that are getting pounded on, but it can at least stop the problem after it gets noticed. The Terms Of Service are at http://www.anonymizer.com/terms.html ; "Abusers of the Anonymizer can expect no anonymity." Of course, the Anonymizer maintains minimal information about its users, so it's not clear whether you'll just lose your $15 account or get hunted down by dogs. Of course, if the Anonymizer is using caching, nobody'll know to whine, except for pages which are designed to subvert the dominant paradigm by being uncacheable and different every time, and they deserve Darwin's attention anyway. Free anonymizer users aren't much risk, with 30 second delays, assuming the anonymizer still places some limits on how many total page hits per second or kbps it'll do for free. Paid anonymizer users probably have more potential to cause damage, since they're not time-limited, and using automated systems for high-speed requests is against terms of service. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts@ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

At 11:24 PM 11/29/97 EST, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:

What will Cottrell do if someone uses his anonymizer(R)[TM] to connect to someone's web server many times in a row, requesting the same pages, and the admins of said server whine about "denial of service" attacks?

Is there any legal precident for charging someone with a crime related to DoS? With a crime related to HTTP-exploitation DoS? ------------------------------------------------------------ David Honig Orbit Technology honig@otc.net Intaanetto Jigyoubu Information is a dense, colorless, odorless material readily transmitted across empty space and arbitrary boundaries by shaking charged particles.