Re: sooner or later
Bill Stewart wrote:
At 10:45 PM 9/18/97 -0700, Wei Dai wrote:
Many of us believe that a crypto ban is inevitable. The only question for us is whether it'll happen sooner or later. Seen in this perspective, all that industry and civil liberties lobbies can do is delay the ban. But is this necessarily a good thing?
Yes. Later is bad, but sooner is worse. First of all, "Soon" means "We lost already", while "Later" means "We haven't lost yet, even though it looks pretty much like we're going to lose later,...
The only way I see us losing is if we do not stand together. I do see that we will need to go underground ofr awhile, but when they see that they will always have a problem with us, they will eventually have to deal with us. That is unless they want to turn the US into a real life version of the movie Red Dawn! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199709191823.LAA10185@f48.hotmail.com>, on 09/19/97 at 11:23 AM, "David Downey" <digital_matrix@hotmail.com> said:
Bill Stewart wrote:
At 10:45 PM 9/18/97 -0700, Wei Dai wrote:
Many of us believe that a crypto ban is inevitable. The only question for us is whether it'll happen sooner or later. Seen in this perspective, all that industry and civil liberties lobbies can do is delay the ban. But is this necessarily a good thing?
Yes. Later is bad, but sooner is worse. First of all, "Soon" means "We lost already", while "Later" means "We haven't lost yet, even though it looks pretty much like we're going to lose later,...
The only way I see us losing is if we do not stand together. I do see that we will need to go underground ofr awhile, but when they see that they will always have a problem with us, they will eventually have to deal with us. That is unless they want to turn the US into a real life version of the movie Red Dawn!
Oh I wouldn't be feeling to optimistic with that. We in the crypto/anarchist community are a very small minority. Our govenrmnet would have no qualms at all of taking us out. A nice little Reichstag Fire to turn popular opinion against us and then the storm troopers will be sent out. If you are expecting some type of popular support of "us" against "them" I think you are sorely mistaken. The majority of the sheeple would be all to happy to turn in those evil cryptologist for their 5min of fame. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNCLNH49Co1n+aLhhAQFT7AP/Z7Kqwr9ovhW8i/cIItOz74Ju/RoQvJ0C 4OCdXh5+YUBECmYKTnTzIPkNzrBBOpQLy8xnaCNHItG1z1OSo1VGVeap4pye2Kpu n54sLSWB59tnEhN1EWig9qG1aGuG/EAa+yKiG6eNnN/iJh/tk9dp6M5S4BG9n8OM VNuT+xqI8dQ= =/uit -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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