FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ C'punks, In a recent exchange, Carl Ellison wrote:
After the meeting ended it hit me what the problem is and I mentioned it to PRZ. We're complaining that the Executive has gone rogue -- is disobeying the will of the people. PRZ likened it to Nixon's war in Cambodia.
To which Jim Bell replied:
I have a solution to that problem.
My question for member of this list is: When Bell finally goes too far and they arrest or shoot him, how can we best capitalize on his martyrdom? Or in a more negative light, what damage control will we need to do in that case? Now I know that barking dogs rarely bite, but Jim may just fool us and find his cajones. In any event, the sort of yapping he is doing could itself be considered a crime that could attract the sort of negative attention he apparently craves. Any suggestions? S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
Any suggestions?
Jim Bell has a solution to that problem. Sorry, couldn't resist. ;) - PS -- Ng Pheng Siong <ngps@pacific.net.sg> * Finger for PGP key. Pacific Internet Pte Ltd * Singapore 'The meek will inherit the earth, after the rest of us have gone to the stars.' - alt.2600 poster
Sandy: On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
goes too far and they arrest or shoot him, how can we best
let him be a victim of his own success. xan jonathon grafolog@netcom.com ********************************************************************** * * * Opinions expressed don't necessarily reflect my own views. * * * * There is no way that they can be construed to represent * * any organization's views. * * * ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ * * * http://members.tripod.com/~graphology/index.html * * * ***********************************************************************
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Sandy" wrote:
My question for member of this list is: When Bell finally goes too far and they arrest or shoot him, how can we best capitalize on his martyrdom? Or in a more negative light, what damage control will we need to do in that case?
Hm. I think the best we could hope for is along the lines of "The suspect subscribed to the 'Cypherpunks' discussion group on the Internet, but his violent views were rejected by the members of the group." It is important that the reporter manages to _not_ use the word "member" to indicate that Bell is a "member" of Cypherpunks. I think that conversing with Bell, or publically replying to him at all, even to insult him, makes him more of a "member" and makes his pet topic more a part of cypherpunks, both in appearance and in substance. So don't do it. That means you, too, Black Unicorn. At _least_ you can take it to private e-mail in order to prevent the reporters from getting the wrong idea, and in order to spare the rest of us the tedium of deleting the messages. This is assuming that the statement "his violent views were rejected by the members of the group" is actually true! If there _is_ anyone else here who shares Bell's evil enthusiasms, I strongly encourage you to begin a new list dedicated to that topic. Regards, Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMbWV+kjbHy8sKZitAQG9+QMAmOD17gObNoIYWwstKVwqqzaIE/D3m0YE E3vkrMSqtXYOqg3va2+FWhaawWvvVJTLPKWdYn/kQN+jaaJo3tmPXmyAFKlLVXs5 qZUWxw+nu4vct8TIw+gAxLsWP5ZZvuGe =QzOk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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