Re: [NOISE] Re: Nazis on the Net
At 02:20 PM 4/23/96 -0700, Rich Burroughs wrote:
I'm sure it has been. That doesn't mean his report is untrue. Is the standard of proof the same for both of these issues? We need proof to establish that Weaver is a racist, but not to establish that the FBI informant is lying?
I have read that we already have proof that the FBI informant lied on numerous matters. I am not familiar with this proof, but it is consistent with the other facts surrounding this incident. Let us put this in its proper context: The FBI murdered Weaver's dog, his wife, and his son, and did their damndest to murder Weaver. They shot his wife while she was holding a fully loaded assault baby in her arms. They lied about this extensively on oath. The judge and the jury rejected their story during the prosecution of Randy Weaver. Later, when inconvenient facts came out, they pleaded the fifth amendment. Give a dog a bad name and hang him. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd@echeque.com
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For what it's worth, Webster's defines: rac.ism \'ra--.siz-*m\ \-s*st\ n 1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2: RACIALISM - rac.ist n "http://c.gp.cs.cmu.edu:5103/prog/webster" Thus no two of "racists", "separatists" and "race-haters" would be identical sets of people. But with a high degree of overlap, I'd warrant. This means that Abraham Lincoln was a racist, by the way. (That definition isn't too good, though. "_The_ primary determinant"? I would have to classify as racist those who believe that race is _a_ primary determinant of those qualities.) Sorry to be off-topic, but if a thing is going to be discussed I might as well try to add signal. (The "[NOISE]" tag that I left in the subject line doesn't indicate noise, but off-topicness.) Perhaps we could just drop the "Cc: cypherpunks" part and continue this discussion? Regards, Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Auto-signed under Unix with 'BAP' Easy-PGP v1.1b2 iQB1AwUBMX4F7EjbHy8sKZitAQHOgQMAn3+no8l1gYl9jpS0V5IFwK2WwOVRlkY4 cp1h7GEE1uW/Ky/djlOkfHfrbsfIoDSwr4N6dUZAhyhyjWu9eDXwdoLHGLdROR72 sMBnmsd/QrJ02Mptywt52wqCXN1iDkzz =yv4l -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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