I wrote: "And don't forget that Ray Ozzie, the esteemed developer of Lotus Notes (Iris Associates, connected with Lotus, and now IBM), is on the panel. He got all the various briefings, I presume. His response? Don't forget that he announced that Lotus Notes and such products would implement the "40 + 24 Solution," with 24 bits of a 64-bit key given to the government, leaving users with a trivially-crackable 40-bit key." Just to clarify this a bit, this was for the export versions of the products, not the domestic versions. (Most such restrictions have been for export versions.) But the point is that companies are, behind the scenes, making plans to incorporate GAK into their products. The list carried a long discussion of the Lotus plan, back several months ago. (Too bad the archives are no longer available....that "several days" mentioned in the March 18th message at the http://www.hks.net/cpunks/index.html site sure has gotten longer.) Only 4.8 days left until The Report is released. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."