At 9:22 PM 9/23/96, sameer@c2.net wrote:

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Unfortunately, this means that Germany wins.

How does this mean that Germany wins? "radikal 154" is still available all over the world, at almost 50 mirror sites, I beleive (including http://www.c2.net/radikal/), which are *not* blocked by Germany.

Germany went after the most visible site, the _original_ site. That other sites were mirroring the verboten material did not stop them from blocking access to xs4all, so Germany clearly still wanted to make an example of xs4all. That xs4all eventually capitulated has to be seen as a win for Germany. (Certainly within the government of Germany, they must be viewing this as a victory.) They will probably now turn their sights on other sites (no pun intended), hoping to pick off each one in turn. I guess it's the domino theory all over again. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."