Re: Best Cypherpunk long gun
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 12/23/97 1:34 AM, Tim May (tcmay@got.net) passed this wisdom:
(The notion that the AR-15/M-16 "jams" is based on 35-year-old early experiences in Viet Nam, using an early design and early ammo. The jamming problems were fixed quickly, by changing the forward assist, changing the ammo a little, and teaching soldiers how to properly clean the weapon.)
In addition to that they chrome plated the chambers which eliminate 99% of the actions where the extractor would rip off the tail end of the casing. "obturation" (almost microscopic expansion of the brass in the chamber at ignition) and the coarser finish of the unplated chambers coupled up to give a high percentage of jams. When the jam was tough enough that the tail of the cartridge got ripped off the poor trooper was up shits creek since he couldn't use a cleaning rod to remove the shell ... a lot of M16s got bent around trees because of that! By Nov 68 when I got in country the 1st MarDiv had replaced most of its M16s with the newer chromed chamber models. I don't know about other services or outfits. I had maybe a half dozen occasions where I put four to six 20 round mags (the Marines didn't start getting the 30 round mags til the Army got all theirs - sigh!) through my weapon on full auto in rapid succession and never had a jam. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNJ/kZz7r4fUXwraZAQEe2gf+JsOLKfLW9GGQBu8WNDAaqyjql1FamKQp abqMPoleLrhaHrB7TnkfTF7sdL6R9tO9syBTjqw36CKOXv/lP3/DsiSQTnML2K2s cl2eCphQvfc2b7L9ylXcihs0UHynqCgevtPLJG5f7QrSvzR+NFlFd0roBiFLLZc+ lz88qgnSUOFclhepsmYslSBEqaLX62Y11pnxb/yr1xU6DUVZv+92yhVsT2ojxZ4b n6WrsU81mFOjX+Oi41Zg9GAbMFy/cM2O2mZ4YJBEWkztWA1J9kNX6NSisv0Yswbj bkmWD3sFCeh8qKmflllh+fuxq70q8mLyws6ntzclpdgcUUs1JWGIjg== =rdqq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day, but give him a case of dynamite and soon the village will be showered with mud and seaweed and unidentifiable chunks of fish." -Joe Chew
Brian B. Riley wrote:
I had maybe a half dozen occasions where I put four to six 20 round mags (the Marines didn't start getting the 30 round mags til the Army got all theirs - sigh!) through my weapon on full auto in rapid succession and never had a jam.
Did it overheat? - Igor.
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