At 08.23 AM 8/9/96 -0700, i am not a number! wrote:

O, and I think they're talking more about putting up cameras at some troubling intersections to take pictures of cars running red-lights.

http://www.panix.com/~sshah/ss-nyred.htm gives a detailed listing of New York City intersections where this is already being done. http://www.eng.uci.edu/vtm/freeway.html describes the techniques used to monitor traffic speeds, etc. with a camera. Includes several pictorial examples. http://www.azfms.com/faq.html (Arizona DOT) gives some interesting (but suspect) info about freeway / camera interaction, as well as a bunch of traffic webcams and links to similar sites. The claim is made that license plates can only be read by the camera when a vehicle is stopped... http://www.best.com/%7Elspencer/geoch/ is a page hawking remote sensor devices (Butt-Sniffers) for identifying "gross polluter' vehicles. These same sensors are being deployed on California freeways in the Bay Area, and owners of "gross polluting" vehicles receive citations in the mail. The page includes details on the advantages of large companies using Butt-Sniffers on their employees' vehicles. "By finding gross polluting employee vehicles via remote sensing, and selectively repairing or scrapping them, the employer can gain AVR compliance." A great example of the (not-so) subtle arm-twisting CARB is doing to implement Smog Check II... http://www.primenet.com/~rstbear/biffl.html Biff the Bear's Potty Cam! A great place for car-grabbing (and most other) bureaucrats to go. Jonathan Wienke "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenarios, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." --Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberg organization meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Transcribed from a tape recording made by one of the Swiss delegates. "A conservative is a liberal who got mugged last night." --Lee Rodgers Key fingerprint = 30 F9 85 7F D2 75 4B C6 BC 79 87 3D 99 21 50 CB