Re: Cats Out of Bags
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David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even funny. "Other governments were upset with the 56-bit export allowance. They said it was going to undermine their national security." -- Start of PGP signed section.
"In an interview Tuesday, [David L.] Aaron [the Feds' Crypto Ambassador] disputed the industry's view that the U.S. efforts to control cryptographic technology are being outstripped by the pace of the technology.
"When I talk to other governments," he said, "they still don't feel that the cat is out of the bag."
What the fuck do *they* know?
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sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:
David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even funny.
The above is a flame. But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames". --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:
David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even funny.
The above is a flame. But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames".
Hmm, I wonder what Sandy does for Sameer... Regards,
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OKSAS <oksas@asimov.montclair.edu> writes:
On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
sameer <sameer@c2.net> writes:
David Aaron seems to make lying out of his ass a hobby. His talk at the RSA conference was such a load of bullshit it wasn't even funny.
The above is a flame. But because Sandy works for Sameer, it was posted to the censores list, not tosses to "cypherpunks-flames".
Hmm, I wonder what Sandy does for Sameer...
Regards,
Not surprisingly, Sandy (a law school flunky) is a salesman for Sameer. So is greg broils, who graduated from some obscure law school but hasn't passed a bar exam. :-) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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"When I talk to other governments," [David L. Aaron] said, "they still don't feel that the cat is out of the bag."
Aaron's denying that the cat is out of the bag? He was fashionably dressed in a Lion Tamer's outfit, waving a whip, and trying to herd hundreds of small furry mammals to jump through a hoop and back into a clawed-up army duffel-bag! "Cats? Haven't seen any cats around here! Pay no attention to these,umm, Siberian Hamsters that I'm evaluating for export approval."
"Other governments were upset with the 56-bit export allowance. They said it was going to undermine their national security."
On this point, the other governments are correct. It really _is_ tougher to maintain a nation-state when your former subjects can have private conversations with each other and with other governments' former subjects...... And even 56 bits is a start. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts@ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp # (If this is a mailing list, please Cc: me on replies. Thanks.)
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At 12:10 AM 1/31/97 -0800, Bill Stewart wrote:
On this point, the other governments are correct. It really _is_ tougher to maintain a nation-state when your former subjects can have private conversations with each other and with other governments' former subjects...... And even 56 bits is a start.
You don't have to be nice to nation states you meet on the way up if you're not coming back down. DCF
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Bill Stewart
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dlv@bwalk.dm.com
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Duncan Frissell
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OKSAS
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sameer