Re: FWD: Another try to kill democracy

At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine 'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
A few more details please: What german agency is taking what action. Has any access been shut off yet, or is it just some two bit asshole fascist with delusions of grandeur?
Please considder mirroring or linking to this site.
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James A. Donald wrote:
At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine 'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
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How serious is this threat?
No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and C-Serve - no trace of restrictions. Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site? Cheers Moe! -- D. Moeller at WebLab U-Agency GmbH webadmin@stadt.com http://www.stadt.com/u-agency/ moe-san@elcafe.com http://www.elcafe.com/~moe-san/

No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and C-Serve - no trace of restrictions.
Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site?
Definetly not. There is an advisory from the Generalbundesanwaltschaft and the ICTF that ISPs should ('have to') restrict the access to those urls. But so far nothing happend. I asked some people to try the urls and there where no restrictions. (I encounterd no restrictions myself.) -stephan

That was my first thought, but it appears the ban is being implemented, albeit slowly. Check out my message of about 12 hours ago on the topic. -Declan On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, D. Moeller wrote:
James A. Donald wrote:
At 09:53 PM 9/2/96 +0000, SPG wrote:
I just got wind that the German government is planning to force german ISP's to shut off access to my ISP, XS4ALL, because the german magazine 'Radikal' has a web page on xs4all.
<..>
How serious is this threat?
No problem in gaining access so far. I even traces through Telekom and C-Serve - no trace of restrictions.
Maybe just a way to generate traffic to a lame site?
Cheers Moe! --
D. Moeller at WebLab U-Agency GmbH webadmin@stadt.com http://www.stadt.com/u-agency/ moe-san@elcafe.com http://www.elcafe.com/~moe-san/
// declan@eff.org // I do not represent the EFF // declan@well.com //

September 6th, 14:00 CET, I can still access the url via our ISP. -stephan
participants (4)
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D. Moeller
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Declan McCullagh
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James A. Donald
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Stephan Schmidt