re: BofA + Netscape
It seems that Perry and other are flaming Netscape for doing things their own way. Yes, Netscape have made a lot fuckups. But they are out there bringing really cool crypto to the masses. First guy on the block always does a lot of dumb fuckups.
This is by far the most intelligent commentary I've read so far in this "NetScape" debate. Does anybody remember PGP 1.0? Released in the summer of 1991, using the Bass-O-Matic cipher... which was worthless. This list didn't come into existence until around the same time PGP 2.0 came out. Thus, nobody railed against the weaknesses of PGP like they are railing against NetScape. So maybe the first version of NetScape could use some enhancements. Just like PGP 1.0 did. Nobody would argue that based on the direction of PGP 1.0, the whole PGP project should be scrapped. Or would they? I think NetScape is doing overall good. Sure, improvements can be made. But SOMETHING is being accomplished.
anonymous-remailer@shell.portal.com says:
Does anybody remember PGP 1.0? Released in the summer of 1991, using the Bass-O-Matic cipher... which was worthless.
This list didn't come into existence until around the same time PGP 2.0 came out. Thus, nobody railed against the weaknesses of PGP like they are railing against NetScape.
Imagine if someone proposed Bass-O-Matic today, however. Well, we have better technologies than SSL today -- IMPLEMENTED AND AVAILABLE -- so they aren't pioneering -- they are going retrograde. Perry
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Imagine if someone proposed Bass-O-Matic today, however. Well, we have better technologies than SSL today -- IMPLEMENTED AND AVAILABLE -- so they aren't pioneering -- they are going retrograde.
Perry
It's too bad that Mosaic used Motif. If it hadn't I think we would have seen continued development by the rest of the community. I'm going to make a point to see how far the tcl/tk folks got with their www browser and see if pgp could be grafted onto it. (Or something along those lines.) Any interested collaborators? Note that part of the reason I'm interested is that it looked like there would eventually be a Windows tk version, which would be fantastic. (Just looked: there is a version available for windows, but not sure if winsock support is there yet. Also, lots of widgets would need to be included in the executable to make it feasible.) Is there an obvious reason that pgp's normal message encoding method couldn't be used as the encryption/authentication technique? sdw -- Stephen D. Williams 25Feb1965 VW,OH sdw@lig.net http://www.lig.net/~sdw Senior Consultant 510.503.9227 CA Page 513.496.5223 OH Page BA Aug94-Dec95 OO R&D AI:NN/ES crypto By Buggy: 2464 Rosina Dr., Miamisburg, OH 45342-6430 Firewalls/WWW servers ICBM: 39 38 34N 84 17 12W home, 37 58 41N 122 01 48W work Pres.: Concinnous Consulting,Inc.;SDW Systems;Local Internet Gateway Co.29Nov94
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