Anyone have the complete info on CP list alternatives?
Everyone and his/her cousin has jumped into the void created when John Gilmore decided to pull the plug on toad.com. However, I'm very confused on just what to do at this point, my news server doesn't see alt.cypherpunks yet and if it did would probably lose about 75% of the posts if past performance is to be any indicator. (Or more accurately, would never get them, we seem to be a bottom feeder here in South Florida as far as the newsgroups go.) Has anyone composed a concise summary of just what the options are? Time is running out, I guess. Thanks in advance. =Bill=
Bill Campbell wrote:
Everyone and his/her cousin has jumped into the void created when John Gilmore decided to pull the plug on toad.com. Has anyone composed a concise summary of just what the options are?
I have subscribed to Igor's cypherpunks@algebra.com. Jim Choate and Lance Cottrel (?) are participating with Igor and others in maintaining continuity of the list, to my understanding. They all seem to be moving toward maintaining a distributed list which will ensure both continuity and integrity. I would suggest joining one or the other list and then, once the 'dust' has settled, taking steps to verify that whatever list you are subscribed to is operating in such a way as to ensure that there are no shenanigans going on in the background. I, for one, am content to give the new list distributors the benefit of the doubt if there are anomalies in the new system, given the haste in which they must initiate a new distributed mailing list system. On the other hand, they may all be godless communists, seeking to twist our fragile minds to do their bidding. (Much like myself) Toto
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Bill Campbell wrote:
However, I'm very confused on just what to do at this point, my news server doesn't see alt.cypherpunks yet and if it did would probably lose about 75% of the posts if past performance is to be any indicator. (Or more accurately, would never get them, we seem to be a bottom feeder here in South Florida as far as the newsgroups go.)
Has anyone composed a concise summary of just what the options are? Time is running out, I guess.
Here's my understanding of the situation: - Newsgroups alt.cypherpunks, alt.cypherpunks.announce, alt.cypherpunks.social, alt.cypherpunks.technical have been created. - The distributed list is still forming and so far consists of cypherpunks@algebra.com, cypherpunks@ssz.com, and others of which I do not know the location. A mail<->news gateway is planned, but not yet in place, between the distributed list and the newsgroup(s). cypherpunks@algebra.com is receiving messages from cypherpunks-unedited. I assume this means that the other hosts part of the distributed list are also receiving cypherpunks-unedited messages. - Lance Cottrell is running another list (cypherpunks@cyberpass.net) that is not yet part of the distributed list. It is also receiving feed from toad.com. If you don't want to miss any messages, then you should subscribe to both cypherpunks@cyberpass.net and one of the distributed list nodes. Since both are receiving cypherpunks-unedited, you can safely unsubscribe from cypherpunks-unedited, -flames, or the "main" list. Since these lists have overlapping content, you should delete duplicates. Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMwif+CzIPc7jvyFpAQEBJwf/T3y22R0W30Sp26Ub4ntH3miJRUBlv9nO GLZqRzT5JI4Ux9Ml6by0aAKxKiOH/mTGuu5ELogsC6hv50F/GKtmQv9kdqTukoJq 19j7WuGCDflve2IPWo9/vSvcJpLBAcGwBnVIOiS8wBR9tz42GxpM/y+/eZgYfYWS OnQHqOA+fDWrKmdNj+3EHuMWXHLoGTILVpX2UGBpFDGZEgoZNM56Oj9CWU5NU3cn 4De/fS5M5L3AO/SGRNQ6CSTqYsixdniapamBdHWeURasvy2iD7Xyxq7li4DzL1VE LB+1qo6AHrmRlS3+4cv3xA+9hsNpFoW0FsicN8sVUP0pGl0ADEVXKA== =HKTe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Mark M. wrote:
- Newsgroups alt.cypherpunks, alt.cypherpunks.announce, alt.cypherpunks.social, alt.cypherpunks.technical have been created.
... Along with several others.
- The distributed list is still forming and so far consists of cypherpunks@algebra.com, cypherpunks@ssz.com, and others of which I do not know the location. A mail<->news gateway is planned, but not yet in place, between the distributed list and the newsgroup(s).
It is in place. It feeds from cypherpunks@algebra.com. Bryan Reece reece@taz.nceye.net runs the posting bot. taz.nceye.net is an open newsserver offering several cypherpunks newsgroups. I am not yet sure if taz is now a part of the mainstream usenet, that is, it may not be connected to the Big USENET.
cypherpunks@algebra.com is receiving messages from cypherpunks-unedited. I assume this means that the other hosts part of the distributed list are also receiving cypherpunks-unedited messages.
Correct.
- Lance Cottrell is running another list (cypherpunks@cyberpass.net) that is not yet part of the distributed list. It is also receiving feed from toad.com.
I will subscribe to it. Now, it is important to realize that Lance's machine is probably much better connected than mine. Once we get connected with him, you may be better off reading cypherpunks from cypherpunks@cyberpass.net. If you su-bsc-ribe to cypherpunks@algebra.com, it may take longer for articles to reach you.
If you don't want to miss any messages, then you should subscribe to both cypherpunks@cyberpass.net and one of the distributed list nodes. Since both are receiving cypherpunks-unedited, you can safely unsubscribe from cypherpunks-unedited, -flames, or the "main" list. Since these lists have overlapping content, you should delete duplicates.
I still think that it is a good idea to do nothing for several days and wait until the distributed network picks up cyberpass. Then, subscribe to any node of your liking. - Igor.
Delivered-To: reece-cpunks-raw@nceye.net Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:07:25 -0600 (CST) Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com, wcampbel@peganet.com Reply-To: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov) From: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) X-No-Archive: yes Organization: Bool Sheet Software X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Precedence: bulk Mark M. wrote:
- Newsgroups alt.cypherpunks, alt.cypherpunks.announce, alt.cypherpunks.social, alt.cypherpunks.technical have been created.
... Along with several others.
- The distributed list is still forming and so far consists of cypherpunks@algebra.com, cypherpunks@ssz.com, and others of which I do not know the location. A mail<->news gateway is planned, but not yet in place, between the distributed list and the newsgroup(s).
It is in place. It feeds from cypherpunks@algebra.com. Bryan Reece reece@taz.nceye.net runs the posting bot. taz.nceye.net is an open newsserver offering several cypherpunks newsgroups. I am not yet sure if taz is now a part of the mainstream usenet, that is, it may not be connected to the Big USENET. It receives some Big Usenet groups, but only for local users. alt.cypherpunks is open, but there will be long delays, on the order of a day, for articles there (unless someone better connected to Usenet wants to feed me alt.cypherpunks.*---any volunteers?).
Bryan Reece wrote:
It is in place. It feeds from cypherpunks@algebra.com. Bryan Reece reece@taz.nceye.net runs the posting bot. taz.nceye.net is an open newsserver offering several cypherpunks newsgroups.
I am not yet sure if taz is now a part of the mainstream usenet, that is, it may not be connected to the Big USENET.
It receives some Big Usenet groups, but only for local users. alt.cypherpunks is open, but there will be long delays, on the order of a day, for articles there (unless someone better connected to Usenet wants to feed me alt.cypherpunks.*---any volunteers?).
I just set up a recipe for using mail2news gateways like this: :0 c | formail -I "Newsgroups: alt.cypherpunks,misc.misc" | \ sendmail mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu mail2news@utopia.hacktic.nl Any objections? - Igor.
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