Hi bruce, Hows it going? I'm back from DK and the UK. I understand you're just coming back from JP (wow what world travelers we are!). have you heard from Sutherland? Do we have a title? page length? It seems to me that we should take out some of the clipper stuff and put in more on CKE since thats pretty hopt at the moment and will further distinguish us from Hoffman's book. We have also moved upto 56kb FR here in the office. Are you still interested in a home page here? Or do you have one we can link to? Dave David Banisar (Banisar@epic.org) * 202-544-9240 (tel) Electronic Privacy Information Center * 202-547-5482 (fax) 666 Pennsylvania Ave, SE, Suite 301 * ftp/gopher/wais cpsr.org Washington, DC 20003 * HTTP://epic.digicash.com/epic