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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 02:28:18 -0800 From: x <x@x.com> Subject: Re: Building crypto archives worldwide to foil US-built Berlin Walls

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1. What is the point of the obfuscation? If it's not legal to do it openly, then it's certainly not legal to hide the fact your doing it. "The accused did it in such a way as to demonstrate that he was aware of it's illegality".

the point is not to hide anything; the point is to expand, arbitrarily (and this was a trivial example), the f() that takes bits from a controllable image to one that is not.

In other words, hide it. A distributed stego hash algorithm. It quacks like a duck. It waddles like a duck. It swims like a duck. It would actualy be criminal collusion and would give the LEA's in the relevant areas the necessary reason (ie probable cause) to act in concert, creating a bigger big brother. Hardly a cpunks goal. ____________________________________________________________________ If I can put in one word what has always infuriated me in any person, any group, any movement, or any nation, it is: bullying Howard Zinn The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------