Re: Crypto's Role in Evil?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I agree with Tim that the future is likely to hold much evil -- as it always has -- and that privacy is unfortunately likely to play an important role in some of that evil -- as it always has. But my analysis of the problem has a subtly different perspective. We mustn't forget that, until very recently, strong, widespread privacy has been humanity's "default" condition. The evils to which Tim alluded would in my opinion be more accurately described as arising out of general advances in communication and consequent new market efficiencies. Progress always has two faces. The ob-crypto question here is, must we now rely upon pervasive LEA surveillance as humanity's only effective defense against the new evils created by technological progress? In other words, are we entering an era in which it is simply becoming TOO DANGEROUS to allow ourselves the traditional luxury of strong, widespread privacy? Many people, especially in government, seem to be answering the above question strongly in the affirmative. The Cypherpunks, on the other hand, have rallied around the idea that the unprecedented loss of privacy is itself an evil against which others pale by comparison. I admit it is a question which troubles me. I can only fall back on the principle that, as I believe Thomas Jefferson put it (quoting approximately from memory), "There is no ultimate safe repository for power other than in the people." Our only hope is in ourselves. --- mkj -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMHk4ZF11Wd4tm8clAQGFfwQAniCTN2dJ+3DrYHFXSq/dPfAzNggxkjlL r3ImCFcCA8JhXBUnGhon76eGtoAlAuuLMeFktACgI35TS+PU7oLtR/FRq68IxldD opnY+CA+4JstBkVHhnMfvW3UX4jZeo9MckaHdxwoZtwtM+D/pERw2Mb2M5r/uHA8 FQFfjsl1vBk= =kC7f -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, 9 Oct 1995 mkj@october.ducktown.org wrote:
We mustn't forget that, until very recently, strong, widespread privacy has been humanity's "default" condition.
Not much privacy in village or tribal life. Even neighborhoods of earlier cities weren't very private. Neighbors always knew your business. DCF
We mustn't forget that, until very recently, strong, widespread privacy has been humanity's "default" condition.
Not much privacy in village or tribal life. Even neighborhoods of earlier cities weren't very private. Neighbors always knew your business.
Big difference is that your neighbors were usually looking out for you.. not waiting to catch you doing something wrong.. Even in the small town I live in, there is considerable privacy even though everyone knows everyone else.. people tend to keep their noses out of others business.. of course, if you offer to talk, then its fair game for the side of the road interrogations <g> Rob L. Rockford, Wa
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