Re: [REBUTTAL] Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News
Dave Hayes wrote:
Igor "Gadzooks" Chudov writes:
Dave Hayes wrote:
You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list. So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position? Simple. I choose whom to invite to my parties. Gilmore provides an open door. Providing an open door does not mean that it is always open to everyone, Dave. It only means that it is open to all by default, but that policy can be reversed for certain individuals. That is not to say that I agree with Gilmore's the decision to kick Vulis out from cypherpunks, but John's decision was neither dishonorable nor he was acting outside his powers, in my opinion.
Technically, John Gilmore did nothing, since Vulis continues to read and post. Symbolically, he punched holes in his ideology. That's my opinion. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet You need not wonder whether you should have a reliable person as a friend. An unreliable person is nobody's friend.
Dave Hayes wrote:
Symbolically, he punched holes in his ideology. That's my opinion.
Note that this is only true if John's ideology in the first placed was what you think it was. He may have "punched holes" in the conception of John's ideology that you'd formed in your own mind, of course. Thus, John's actions punched no holes in my ideology, since such an action always has had a perfectly respectable place there. ______c_________________________________________________________________ Mike M Nally * IBM % Tivoli * Austin TX * How quickly we forget that mailto:m5@tivoli.com mailto:m101@io.com * "deer processing" and "data http://www.io.com/~m101/ * processing" are different!
Mike McNally wrote:
Dave Hayes wrote:
Symbolically, he punched holes in his ideology. That's my opinion.
Note that this is only true if John's ideology in the first placed was what you think it was. He may have "punched holes" in the conception of John's ideology that you'd formed in your own mind, of course.
Umm, even if we accept Dave's claim that Gilmore pinched holes in his ideology, these holes are no bigger than Dave Hayes's own holes, since he exercises censorship of Freedom Fighters mailing list. - Igor.
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Dave Hayes
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ichudov@algebra.com
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Mike McNally