Adam Shostack <adam@bwh.harvard.edu> wrote:

| And the nazi pages were written in english. The pages were named | after the author of the pages (something like 'The XY report', where | XY was the authors name, but I can't remember it. The author was | an american).

The Leuter report? Leuter was a local moron who claimed to be an engineer. He wrote a report claiming to prove that the gas chambers somewhere were too small to kill many people.

For the record: It's Leuchter, Fred Leuchter.

The Commonwealth of Mass brought him to court several years ago for "practicing engineering without a license." A good rebuttal of his report was written up by (I think) William McVey, in Canada. Ask in talk.politics.mideast, or soc.history.revisionist or something.

Ken McVay. And dozens of other people too. The newsgroup is alt.revisionism. If you've got any interest in the "holocaust revisionism" phenomenon, it's well worth at least a brief look in there. Incidentally, I would say that this is one of the best uses of the net I've ever seen. This particular brand of neo-nazism is tricky: in their case, it really is true that there's no such thing as bad press. Any exposure they get on TV, the radio, or in print media helps their cause, because of the inherent limitations of those media. They can throw up smokescreens, spew out blatantly false "facts" that sound plausible but can't be confirmed or denied then and there, put on the "we're just skeptics who feel that these questions need to answered even though they're controversial" act, etc. Very difficult to counter, given the strict limitations on time and resources of live broadcasts. But on the net, where claims can be researched and repudiated and responses "broadcast" almost immediately, and where people have all the time in the world to debate these issues, these guys get absolutely trounced every day. They make a claim, it gets blown to smithereens instantly by a dozen people with access to university libraries and scanned photos, and the revisionists crawl away for a while. Then they come back a month later and start again. It gets kind of old after a while, but's fascinating to see (especially for those naive young people to whom the revisionists seem "reasonable"). Even for a part-time Luddite like me, this is an excellent demonstration of how the net is in many ways fundamentally different from traditional print and broadcast media.

I have no idea why this thread is still on cypherpunks, unless its an experiment in text stego.

Well, I hope my little digression above is at least slightly relevant. --Dave. -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *******************************************************************************