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On 15 May 96 at 19:01, Mark M. wrote:
. What if a company does not pay as expected -
A company could not afford to have such a loss of reputation. Nobody is going to work for a company that doesn't pay its employees.
Yes, but anonymity would prevent the easy build-up of reputation too: If Joe Anon9876 say: "company ANON1234 Inc screwed me, how peoples will know that it is not a unscrupulous competitor trying to damage their reputation? Now, if Joe Anon9876 decides to disclose to the public that his real name is John Doe to give more weight to his denounciation, and depending on wether or not his bosses *are* or are not crooks, he might very well get some sort of "prediction" on his head. Now, Jim Bell's servers don't have to be completely public. Suppose some servers were built so that the donation address would be known but the list of donation would be kept secret: Such server could thrive. Most "donation" here would not be 2 bucks but rather 20,000 bucks to ensure that the contract would get taken up promptly. And since the targets would not be published, there would be not even a hint that company ANON1234 *might* have put a contract on John Doe (Now, aka Joe Anon9876) . The fact that an open AP server exists makes the later possibility also possible. To have access to the target list would require to be member of a *very* close circle, or maybe, actually, just en employee of ANON_KILLERS4567_Inc. Reputation is standing on the fact that an entity disclose it's existence, accepts to act in full view of significant others, and is prepared to show evidence of good conduct to said significant others. And also on the fact that a challenger to the reputation have to put his own on the opposite platter of the balance. Anonymity makes it hard to do. JFA DePompadour, Societe d'Importation Ltee; Limoges porcelain, silverware and crystal JFA Technologies, R&D consultants; physists, technologists and engineers. PGP keys at: http://w3.citenet.net/users/jf_avon ID# C58ADD0D : 529645E8205A8A5E F87CC86FAEFEF891 Unsollicited commercial e-mail will be proofread at US165 $/h Any sender of such material will be considered as to have ac- cepted the above mentionned terms.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 18 May 1996, Jean-Francois Avon wrote:
Yes, but anonymity would prevent the easy build-up of reputation too:
If Joe Anon9876 say: "company ANON1234 Inc screwed me, how peoples will know that it is not a unscrupulous competitor trying to damage their reputation?
Now, if Joe Anon9876 decides to disclose to the public that his real name is John Doe to give more weight to his denounciation, and depending on wether or not his bosses *are* or are not crooks, he might very well get some sort of "prediction" on his head.
Now, Jim Bell's servers don't have to be completely public. Suppose some servers were built so that the donation address would be known but the list of donation would be kept secret: Such server could thrive. Most "donation" here would not be 2 bucks but rather 20,000 bucks to ensure that the contract would get taken up promptly. And since the targets would not be published, there would be not even a hint that company ANON1234 *might* have put a contract on John Doe (Now, aka Joe Anon9876) . The fact that an open AP server exists makes the later possibility also possible. To have access to the target list would require to be member of a *very* close circle, or maybe, actually, just en employee of ANON_KILLERS4567_Inc.
You are right about the anonymity part -- I hadn't thought about it that much. However, how would AP solve anything? If the company is completely anonymous, then nobody would know who to kill. Every worker including the president would be pseudonymous. - -- Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm@voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xe3bf2169 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 ((2b) || !(2b)) | Old key now used only for signatures "The concept of normalcy is just a conspiracy of the majority" -me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMZ5nkLZc+sv5siulAQHr9AP9HhipvicY7kr2WZ/Y2yKYrVMQOEXCTHLO 9jnrl5ujC7+2HheGszgJ7FsI9O8eTyM1Z/Q/jEmHDx0etVa7ffVndZSC2l2WqpoG fIfz4Ua7PHReiu0pZbfWqY//00OgJP/smzGo06ZndCX5Osu4R+dHUd7LhYqsm9Jv R/pMNOnrJco= =XKTM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Mark: On Sat, 18 May 1996, Mark M. wrote:
However, how would AP solve anything? If the company is completely anonymous, then nobody would know who to kill. Every worker including the president would
Do a textual analysis of everything the anonymous id that you want terminated with extreme prejudice. It will provide you with the information you need, to find out the person's "real" identity. xan jonathon grafolog@netcom.com
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