WELCOME TO THE NEW ROMAN EMPIRE
On Sat, 18 May 1996, Duncan Frissell wrote:
It was understandable to be poor when all the world was poor. It is understandable to be poor in those nations today that make the accumulation of wealth a crime for most people. It is not understandable to be poor (for long) in the US where one can reliably get out of poverty simply by doing three simple things:
1) get a high school diploma
EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
2) get married
EVERYONE GETS MARRIED --> MARRIAGE BECOMES SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT
3) get any job
EVERYONE GETS A JOB --> EVERYONE TAKES THE PAYCUT
Only about 2 tenths of 1% of those who satisfy those three requirements incomes below the official poverty line.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE TENS OF MILLIONS IN APPALACHIA WHO GRADUATED MARRIED AND WORK IN POVERTY
Like most libertarians, I dislike the government. I don't care what a person's income is. When I was self-supporting on an income of $200 a month in 1979, I was below the poverty level for a single person myself. I am not enamored of the rich or poor members of the dependendant classes of course.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING WRONG ITS BRAIN IS BUSINESS
I try and keep in mind that 80-90% of the "take" in government programs for the "poor" goes to unpoor government employees.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING WRONG ITS BRAIN IS BUSINESS
DCF
I've done all these things - and rather more in the way of education. But while I don't fall on or near the poverty line, I'm still poor as a church mouse. What am I doing wrong?
YOUR WHITE LIKE THE 100000000S SUFFERING IN POVERTY IN THE NEW ROMAN EMPIRE
Sean Gabb.
EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
Will someone please buy this man a shift key and some Thorazine?
Yeah, next thing ya know, somebody will be claiming that Physics PHds can't get work now, and that MD's being out of work is right around the corner. (Newly minted board-eligible Pathologists have it worst, right now).
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- (I really don't think a [NOISE] tag is necessary; do you?) On Sun, 19 May 1996, Alan Horowitz wrote: [ALL CAPS is by Skippy <qut@netcom.com>]
EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS
Will someone please buy this man a shift key and some Thorazine?
Yeah, next thing ya know, somebody will be claiming that Physics PHds can't get work now, and that MD's being out of work is right around the corner. (Newly minted board-eligible Pathologists have it worst, right now).
Funny, I just watched an out-of-work physics PhD talk about a related subject on 60 Minutes. Confirmed what I already thought about him, Mike, and Morris (they're all idiots). Skippy is just playing around with markov again. He trolls in waves: humor -> trust -> confrontation -> outbust -> quiet -> lather, rinse, repeat. If you have any serious questions about Skippy and friends, please encrypt your message with the key that follows. I'll probably have something interesting (and on-topic) to share for the putative June 8th SF area cypherpunks meeting (we'll have a real room). - -rich - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzE4pKQAAAEEAMUH20RG0Uh0KXcIu5gTFM6NgHoDW5fBewmO4HvYwgBa8deq BwMbKW7bhbiG8uvFtvvhYbN/77DSDT8pTnUZkUtpUQsPNPTUSIUJsAQc9ndJBu7w KjWjwyg3kc4MDHq349nAdBuynVcOMZ46Q5lIaxQIsPTPRI57GUCtQY1pkqtNAAUR tD5SaWNoIEdyYXZlcyBTZWN1cmUgT2ZmbGluZSA8cmljaC5ncmF2ZXNARm9yc3l0 aGUuU3RhbmZvcmQuRURVPokAlQMFEDFAYCxpqHkdFx/OXQEBiV0EAIGcpREw66qj TT3+3QRz1c4mBwoDhmzDqPBvXegt7zvZ1OyT7aqZGTnqodXLtnCNyzMyOHrXTUBL NCTgSFM0H6QRsoBt0xzbiW+XWHHiuQgHJtdyTg40iFQsNrZj7Va+qiS3W7e5w8wh DW6qsulbxyudZtISANBrlhQnz/B5Xpn9iQCVAwUQMTim643DXUbM57SdAQFZOAQA wdu9vyKI+lMPBGlagfQ62Og01JzKh3L/LM32UUpmi35AKSc0EGIG5GV5zOFA9BsT gHzrL9msRvWx6uUzvEDE8BzMHTrf41mr6Btq+S5O8VrAnfYNdXMeRUG9sJHGOaY+ wETLEImZr7Ljam57g1ZNgBaERdrbpGoTomoVEnEGlwyJAJUDBRAxOKaEJ7zIom1K rF0BAQTGBACZqNPEMVIQctVzWTw7NeyanLenm8mx+FXul+9FSxczrbJT3Q6i+MLv EPop41NGUfIrhazW7SFtT0v5ewaGRz8NBkWJNMRWoe7oW/CRmwR63BjlYubS4LuS 7xJeSqaBU/033E13oV8H2dBrx/BaxpCdK5mU+d58ZOeo9hqcw3ZF44kAlQMFEDE4 pm0UgSBs4SlmTQEBlLUEANGLCXSDx4T/FcFg9Q94ADAb1Gn9D9YBiaBjozfdZ+Ve Y/WeofLomelBHqUCaw77UFT1Fmq0Wyw5ym7eHCSb/cR9E2g4LTZpVdGF8nFZbX+N yqvTSxEsaP2Psdlpvwj3eGQ/hTdm12bX7XhJF1j5q4i0kh7c+d+a9rrDd39jGEjT iQCVAwUQMTimUNlBWyzhG2y5AQEXkAP/UdPPZU6WvAHI+JjrVIZRKgs3f5qt7ADI K7NIm1aQRVmIDBTICY/2tkMmLdqR+MW2n6AkrSkB7P+vvz1rK2LSsERBHK1rjgZt z77v2NnEVr5McAhgGX9uWUbmgXghMCtJwnaKCpSpFs31E2TxLRBmb6fwwAzfEfYq OMSiMND6lfKJAJUDBRAxOKYx5PUudM+LRA0BAasdA/0bLGOIUDk2RbFG0jW5Rw/N RiExtU5SSmOUo6FsOgHDmbL/jJIrWQS6TacJM1IiK7ECd72mkLm4NDwVUhJmNyHn uqOL+HvhLp9zTp9K72PsDHnCGYYJG3atk2c05iQ0tK8WBMR1sUwAWHulCjfKCg5f K2ydt9o6lQNdENQm9xj9LIkAlQMFEDE4piIaFuRhG5FXbQEB7dYEAJ3U3/MtK3DX 5gtms2iF66Kei+5TBnhQOeBVEP3PZPGdwazbotHbgiCQYEPPN1S2nF7e9mJj/UDe XX7sMvnPDJXZe+nzlidywETzeQinQ6mz9rQ9yuRHbWLq6ufH7CUi+rniCM5z/i1G sGOI6NenzUHb4y9K8fx3O04OsE8z85GuiQCVAwUQMTik/0CtQY1pkqtNAQFucQP/ Vc3fsN6gClxDSLpq+Gbxhy5eFmCLuFRZcxbS+qTQo3DDS1q6AQ7lMQ7TZSngmHLE 59a85+iEdafrODldoG/PfgRjaqROSHXzD65SoUYECdtvN2JrFdSPRUde8UesMDhv 4Z2ZK8LzXuj9+jDV6bp0vvmlzan4KwwCSAeXA+enDCe0RUtleSAweENDRTdCNDlE IHByaW50IEVEIENBIDY3IDk4IEFEIDJBIDYyIDJBICAwMSAxNyA3OCBBOCAzMyBG MiA2RCBFMLQxTm9ybWFsbHkgdXNlIGtleSAweENDRTdCNDlEIGZvciBsbHVyY2hA bmV0d29ya2luZw== =MFwF - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMaAp2Y3DXUbM57SdAQEsiAP8CdB4xC1wHHf0rCa2Fr020FzH7U35SMQV s4bITaBovLyXPm+yyDcruxa7kdrHNDkvM3QY6qe+Hde3R+7N3/tg66L4J78Fu184 RJBF6A4RkmEutoUKn3+ydRmVk+J7LWDZL+0IDc2sgk51vJiUSLrgExnXEIgC38GP KYU319Xjv3U= =axFz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
! [ALL CAPS is by Rich Graves <qut@netcom.com>] ! > > > EVERYONE GETS A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA --> HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMAS BECOME ! > > > WORTHLESS EVERYONE GETS A PHD --> PHDS BECOME WORTHLESS ! ! Skippy is just playing around with markov again. He trolls in waves: ! humor -> trust -> confrontation -> outbust -> quiet -> lather, rinse, ! repeat. Skippy <llurch@stanford.edu> does not even know what Markov3 does. ! If you have any serious questions about Skippy and friends, please encrypt ! your message with the key that follows. I'll probably have something ! interesting (and on-topic) to share for the putative June 8th SF area ! cypherpunks meeting (we'll have a real room). Skippy doesn't have any friends, so there's no one to answer the questions. Qut may attend the meeting to verify the racial compositions of the group. Results will be reported here. Qut
On Mon, 20 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Dave Harman writes:
Qut may attend the [cypherpunks] meeting to verify the racial compositions of the group.
Why? You have something against black people?
I think it was Asians which upset him.
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Since we've already descended into the gutter, I might as well chime in with the standard: Dave Harman is, as far as I can tell, a troller whose only interest is in causing fights. Some people think he's a racist, but I think he's just an asshole with no convictions of any kind. http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?people/h/harman.david -rich On Mon, 20 May 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Dave Harman writes:
Qut may attend the [cypherpunks] meeting to verify the racial compositions of the group.
Why? You have something against black people?
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