i have no doubt that a certain amount of the noise on this list is the work of agents provocateurs ... and we should just live with it because its entire intent is a certain kind of denial-of-service attack. just ket used to taking extra time and using the delete function a lot. there's still a lot on the list you don't get elsewhere. ah..... if i only had my natural lang. agent running! At 12:58 AM 1/19/97 -0500, Amanda Walker wrote:

Well, in the week or two since resubscribing to Cypherpunks, I've seen a trickle of postings about cryptography, security, and privacy, and a flood of insults, harangues, fighting words, and so on. Some of this reads more like a script from a Jerry Falwell TV spot than anything I recognize as "Cypherpunk" traffic.

I don't care who's offended whom. I'm not interested in participating in a forum where the supposed topic is submerged underneath a lot of adolescent alpha primate chest-beating.

I'm off to look for a mailing list where people are ACTUALLY DISCUSSING CRYPTOGRAPHY AND IMPLEMENTING CRYPTOSYSTEMS. This list may still be called "cypherpunks", but it doesn't have much cypherpunk left in it, as far as I can tell.

Disgusted,

Amanda Walker Senior Software Engineer InterCon Systems Corporation