Censorware Search Engine update and request for files
Over at the Netly News Network, we've decided it's time to update our Censorware Search Engine. For those of you who haven't checked it recently, it's a one-of-a-kind web site that lets you see if you've been blocked by filtering software: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/spoofcentral/censored/ We're planning to update this with newer decrypted lists from some of the vendors like SurfWatch, CyberPatrol, and so on. If you have a list and you'd like it to be included, please send it along. -Declan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <Pine.GSO.3.95.971218143713.5527C-100000@well.com>, on 12/18/97 at 02:37 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> said:
Over at the Netly News Network, we've decided it's time to update our Censorware Search Engine. For those of you who haven't checked it recently, it's a one-of-a-kind web site that lets you see if you've been blocked by filtering software:
We're planning to update this with newer decrypted lists from some of the vendors like SurfWatch, CyberPatrol, and so on. If you have a list and you'd like it to be included, please send it along.
Just out of curiousity I did a search on pathfinder.com :) CyberPatrol: http://binone.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/boa SexActs CyberSitter: pathfinder.com SurfWatch: http://bubblemouth.pathfinder.com/@@srbndqaaaaaaaeeg/vibe/archive/independan... http://mouth.pathfinder.com/@@srbndqaaaaaaaeeg/vibe/archive/independant/blac... No surprise that Cybersitter has the entire domain blocked. Odd the SurfWatch blocks the archives for Vibe magazine yet does not block www.vibe.com. The URL blocked by CyberPatrol is invalid. There was someone who did this awhile back and promptly had his domain blocked by these self appointed protectors of "Truth, Democracy, and The American Way". I was rather disappointed (though not surprised) watching the Censorship Summit a couple of weeks ago that no one took these self appointed Censors to task on the fact that they block sites not mearly on the type of information contained (sex,drugs,violence,...ect) but also block based on political content that disagrees with their own beliefs. Sure fire way to get a site blocked is not to put "dirty" pictures up on it but to put up anything that brings to light the actions of these groups. An intriguing side note is that ALL these groups considers their Censor Lists to be IP. Add that with the new Criminalization of copyright infringement and we may see Declan sharing a cell with Jim Bell. :) - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNJmxr49Co1n+aLhhAQJkywP8CS6UNARjhqKDVCH8J7OI82kTd7PuypGG A8kF31GLvkSOiLrjHzK2rMQr+1lM9Q0yzg268Mp6Ui7arruBRdfuK6082mBefGIf Bot68wjNK5Q0zNtruJ1tGUY6SLlTfySDYCjkcnMv8pXwq2EGn3iif1FLnqUpVLgw a0JR9o0VrF4= =m1sT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
CyberSitter now blocks part of the CSE URL ("/spoofcentral/"), if I remember properly. Of course it also blocks any other site that has the word "spoofcentral" as part of the URL. Talk about shotgun-style approaches. CyberPatrol's "boa" blocking is abbreviated. I think the cgi script is used for our bulletin board discussion areas, usually devoted to such purient topics as the First Pooch.
CyberPatrol: http://binone.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/boa SexActs [...] An intriguing side note is that ALL these groups considers their Censor Lists to be IP. Add that with the new Criminalization of copyright infringement and we may see Declan sharing a cell with Jim Bell. :)
They already tried. See: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,453,00.html To Milburn's mind, our act of revealing the truth about his company's product was, literally, criminal. In August, he told us that he had asked the U.S. Department of Justice to launch a criminal investigation into the publication of our article. He was particularly upset with one paragraph that included a fragment of his database demonstrating that CyberSitter expressly bans info about gay society and culture. He wrote: "Your willful reverse engineering and subsequent publishing of copyrighted source code is a clear violation of US Copyright law. While we would easily prevail in a civil court in seeking damages... we will seek felony criminal prosecution under 17 USCS sect 503(a) of the Copyright Act, and are preparing documentation to submit with the criminal complaint to FBI (sic)." -Declan
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CyberSitter now blocks part of the CSE URL ("/spoofcentral/"), if I remember properly. Of course it also blocks any other site that has the word "spoofcentral" as part of the URL. Talk about shotgun-style approaches.
CyberPatrol's "boa" blocking is abbreviated. I think the cgi script is used for our bulletin board discussion areas, usually devoted to such purient topics as the First Pooch.
CyberPatrol: http://binone.pathfinder.com/cgi-bin/boa SexActs [...] An intriguing side note is that ALL these groups considers their Censor Lists to be IP. Add that with the new Criminalization of copyright infringement and we may see Declan sharing a cell with Jim Bell. :)
They already tried. See: http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,453,00.html
I wonder if we can't turn the tables on him an file both civil and criminal fraud chrages against him. Last time I looked it was still illegal to sell an apple and deliver an orange even if you convice the buyers that it is an apple. :) - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNJm7WY9Co1n+aLhhAQIOTwP+MIDqfv7AiQkA6BwsXKtUA5j6pwBU3+3q YarQqHbn0/SAqdPY7W4KqizcEjOSTfiHxlkYl5YTohZ75zkV6b2UYY2YY5WZjCJ7 tnvb/mjUm7TQDfmKhwqpgxG8QJxajxIJyJJOYGN2AMPzDSnbrZ5zYOGI99/XANCb mPY+9F8jQIE= =71Lh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
One comment in this article:
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,453,00.html
may be incorrect. The comment is:
I have one major objection to all of the software filters currently on the market: Consumers have no way of knowing what's being blocked. Without knowing what's on the filter list, parents can't know what Junior will or won't be seeing.
NetNanny (www.netnanny.com) says that its lists are fully viewable and editable. If so, perhaps we should support them as the alternative.
At 14:37 -0800 12/18/97, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Some of the pathfinder servers seem to be having problems. If you keep reloading the page, it should work. -Declan
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Declan McCullagh
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William H. Geiger III