Re: [ZOG] MARXIST COHEN WANTS 'CURTAILED FREEDOM': CALL TO ARMSWANTED
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At 8:20 PM -0700 10/29/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
* Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose * between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection. Defense * Secretary William S. Cohen says.
And no doubt this means GMR for all crypto. And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings, the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then? Not much of a choice, eh? The spinmeisters are laying the groundwork for martial law. Just what we've been hearing about for years. Get ready. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
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On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Tim May wrote:
And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings, the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then?
Not much of a choice, eh?
No choice at all. My local 7/11 just installed a Verifone Tranz 330 for the sole purpose of checking the magstripes on the ID's of prospective alcohol buyers. See, the issue isn't if you are old enough to drink. The issue is do you have a government license to do so? Of course the new system will be hacked by enterprising juveniles. Which will only increase the calls for transponders to be implanted at birth. -- Lucky Green <shamrock@cypherpunks.to> PGP encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?"
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <v03102804b07da8389442@[207.167.93.63]>, on 10/29/97 at 08:03 PM, Tim May <tcmay@got.net> said:
At 8:20 PM -0700 10/29/97, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
* Terrorism is escalating to the point that Americans soon may have to choose * between civil liberties and more intrusive means of protection. Defense * Secretary William S. Cohen says.
And no doubt this means GMR for all crypto.
And if we say "No thanks" to the no-knock searches, the street friskings, the "Papierren, bitte??" travel restrictions, what then?
Not much of a choice, eh?
The spinmeisters are laying the groundwork for martial law. Just what we've been hearing about for years.
Get ready.
Lock-N-Load!! I wish for once one of the spineless members of the press would ask: "How many people have died from Terrorism in the last 10yrs?" Let's be generious and say 10,000 world wide (more like 2,000 but lets not quibble over numbers). So we are at 1,000/year world wide. Now only a fraction of those are actually Americans say 50-100/year. Now how do they justify the establishment of a police state to save 50-100 lives?!? More Americans die every year from slipping on bars of soap! Our problem here is not that Assholes are running Washington (Washington has always been run by assholes) are problem is the Press has turned into the sphincter of the powers that be. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNFh1Go9Co1n+aLhhAQGksAQAm3/8QSINev69Uj6Fr9OPuEXy22uZ1eOU KUmtrbPeJdRINf0LoEx9kpb24k1Yi/aArKUoamHS6KqcfczhZm36j6hVhuMv9sR4 TwUy3qHc2lk7BmGHLw2OIzBdhMqJ5194C/xJUOIZAnynA7aHi0Nl7koLz9sBSIOJ nDJmkiF0abg= =VRA3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Lucky Green
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Tim May
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William H. Geiger III