-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, H. M. wrote:

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I think you should perhaps read a little more maboy...

I know I should, and I do. Never claimed to be a guru or else, did I? I just said what I knew, ie. gave my opinion (even if I am a newbie), which is something you obviously don't like. Perhaps you didn't read (sic) that I kept using "I think", "I believe", "I guess", etc. instead of "I STATE". Perhaps you didn't read the 411 for the PGP-Mailing-List. I don't recall it saying "Ask unrelated questions if your a newbie." IMO anyone interested in "2600" groups can find 411 all over the www. also there are alt.2600 newsgroups, as well as other places. I personally wouldn't even mind if you kept it off the list and asked if I knew what 2600 is, but trying to "teach" ppl what you "think" 2600 is.. has no place on this mailing list.

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...with any "group" nowadays, there is a FAQ avaliable for newbies etc (obviously like yourself). ... others just know ever since... never were newbies, hey? You don't know how to read?

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They are not "supposedly hackers and phreakers". Aso the debatable issure of exact translation of a hacker, IMO it is anyone that has altered ANY program. The issue of exact translation should be, perhaps, discussed on a grammar, language, or else mailing list if it is to start a flame. I have no interest in starting a flame, you have embarrased yourself well enough.

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p.s. If it wasn't for hackers, you wouldn't have the technology you have. If it wasn't for you... am I in front of a top developer or similar? Sorry, If I simply wrote the 2600 faq (which I didnt) it would have bettered society, because idiots would have an idea what it is.

I didn't notice, all I can see is a squared 14'' screen. Well, obviously you stumbled upon a keyboard as well, prematurely perhaps.

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OH what you've read on the beloved www. I'd imagine you read an article on a webpage full of sex ad banners as well. I don't feel that I am an "outlawed hero" but I feel I better society in various ways. You see, you just imagine (as I "guessed, believed,..."), and that's a good thing (even imagining with a sick mind... sex add banners?). As for bettering society... how? trying to scare people away so that you are THE ONE with the know-how? I'm not trying to "scare you away". (you'd know if I was "trying").

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As I've already said, you have alot more reading to do. I'm sure if we ever get to meet each other, you'll teach me a lot and perhaps lighten me... meanwhile, I'll just try to learn away from those like you, I'll leave psycotic tales for others, if you don't mind me to.

I'll help you with anything I can, off-list. In the meantime, read.

I never said or stated hackers or the like are to be prosecuted or else, never tried to raise a moral nor ethical argument about, I just posed a question on (personal) security. Pretending you have an idea on what 2600 is not related to security. (Although the 2600 group irnoically does).

Most of all I DID NOT try to raise a flame by annoying anyone. If you are up to it, or if you believe you are Robin Hood (or Rob Hack for this matter), I don't give a monkey about it, just visit your psychiatrist, or talk to a priest/ess if you have a religion, or wait for the green people to come fetch you up. As I've just said, I won't get involved on a flame with you, so don't bother to answer, I won't do it at all. Perhaps if you reply off-list or try stop trying to pull your head out of toilet, I'll leave you alone.

I apologize to others on this list for this, but I felt I had to answer once as all newbies do.

(no more, promised). promise?

H. Menezo Ganau homega@vlc.servicom.es homega@latinmail.com

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