From: Timothy C. May Putting Microsoft's feet to the fire, getting them to commit to *not* including any form of software-based key escrow in any future releases of Windows (Chicago or Daytona) could be a concrete step in the right direction. Ditto for Apple. ................................................ I'm afraid you can't do that, Tim. You're just going to have to take Sandy & Duncan's Seminar on Hard-core Privacy. :>) Blanc (I'm checking on getting permission to post an official word from MS)