McVeigh is alot better than Heston (at lying-type propaganda. I couldn't even call McVeigh's "lying-type." It was filled with MUCH more fact than Heston's speech.) The glaring over-all problem I see with his speech, is his hypocracy when it comes to the 1st amendment (yea, I know he *claimed* to be a 1st amendments rights supporter, BUT his actions (the rest of the speech) counters that claim.) Here's why they want to remove our freedom of speech. It's because - dig this Cypherpunks - 'The pen is mightier than the sword.' If they take away our ability to speak, and they keep their silly guns, guess what. Then they have the more powerful weapon. And dig this - yes it IS that simple. Stan