Peterwheat@aol.com:

found this by doing a keyword search (cryptography) in America Online's database of mailing lists. I thought it might be of interest to the cypherpunks mailing list:

CYPHERWONKS: The Development of Cyberspace

I subscribed to this when LD first announced it early last December. I never received any mail. At that time I do believe Julf had said something supporting this list. Incidentally the address for LD in your database on AOL is ancient. And the description message seems watered down. The original post was full of LD's paranoid gems -- here's an excerpt for your entertainment:

anonymity. However, we do not necessarily believe that others are required to read anonymous postings. To the contrary, we believe that the individual should have the tools and freedom to filter his or her own mail based on real identities. In particular, we condemn the practice of `pseudospoofing,' the dangerous deception where a person builds up a pseudonym and misrepresents it as being that of a real person's identity. We police each other on the list to prevent it, and require a promise that our members refrain from it. While our trust can be betrayed, only those that are honest are true cypherwonks, and anyone who betrays our trust we consider a dishonist hypocrite, or worse, a *traitor*

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