You shouldn't immediately dismiss the establishment as being unsympathetic; many of us are working toward common goals, but in different ways. In my case, since '84, through mass commercial distribution of strong crypto.

While you can obviously trust no one to represent your interests with 100% accuracy, I've been here for a while and will most definitely be trying to represent CP viewpoints through my perception of those expressed in this forum.

Ray

This is certainly true. For instance, I've spoken with one ex-Air Force Intelligence Officer who feels that Clipper is a bad idea because it gives the enemy a single target to attack. Grab clipper and you've got the key to everything. He may care about "rights" but he talks about security.