On Wed, 8 May 1996, Dr. Dimitri Vulis wrote:

I haven't seen this announcement reposted to this mailing list, and I think it's of sufficient interest to warrant reposting:

Newsgroups: misc.legal,alt.censorship,misc.legal.moderated,talk.politics,alt.privacy From: ra@panix.com (Ron Abramson) Subject: Free program on net censorship in NYC Message-ID: <Dr1vDJ.Cr8@world.std.com> Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 17:49:08 GMT

Announcement: Free Program On Net Censorship in New York City, May 22 at 7:30 P.M. --------------------------------------------

THE FIRST AMENDMENT IN CYBERSPACE: Regulating the On-Line Dissemination of "Indecent Material"

This program will address the issue of the First Amendment as applied to the Internet and On-line services. Special focus will be given to the new federal law which is intended to regulate the dissemination of "Indecent Material" via these mediums.

Now just WHY do these assholes wast everybodies time talking about something that everybody KNOWS is unconstitutional? These fucking lawyers just pull the stunts so they can go and have lunch in a tax-deductable manner, and meet the requirements for some CLE hours that is mandated by the State. This whole affair will be a sham as usual.

The Association of the Bar of the City of New York 42 W 44TH Street, New York, New York (Bet. 5th and 6th Avenues) (212) 382-6600

This New York Bar has the WORST reputation of any local association that I know. Last year they discussed the legalization of crack and other hard drugs in a "drug-law revamping" seminar, and Mayor Guliani almost SHIT!

Wednesday, May 22, 1996, 7:30 till 9 P.M.

Moderator: CHARLES R. NESSON Weld Professor of Law, Harvard law School

Panelists: ROBERT FLORES Senior Trial Attorney, Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, U.S. Department of Justice

See, the "kid-porn" is the whole fucking issue here, and they are going to go trying to regulate text because if this concern.

MICHAEL GODWIN General Counsel, Electronic Frontier Foundation

That guy is an asshole. The whole EFF is a joke!

STEPHEN M. HEATON General Counsel, Compuserve, Inc.

Censorous bastard.

NORMAN REDLICH Wachtell, Lipton Rosen & Katz, former Dean, New York University School of Law

BRUCE TAYLOR President and Chief Counsel, National Center for Children and Families

See, this porn issue is diluting everything.

Co-sponsored by: Committee on Computer Law, Joseph P. Zammit, Chair Committee on Lectures and Continuing Education, Normal L. Green, Chair

Yes, to get "continuing legal education" credits for just BULLSHITTING about something these lawyers are all incompetent at.

Members of the Association, their guests and all other interested persons are invited to attend.

No fees or reservations are required.

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Dr. Dimitri Vulis Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Go to this meeting and ask these fucking dumb lawyers how the fuck they expect to enforce a law against US citizens that they cannot enforce against Canadian or Mexican citizens. The whole fucking concept of trying to regulate cyberspace by the laws of any one country is ABSURD! Then ask them if any of them know who tale or speedbump is. If they do not know that, they have no reason even talking about cyberspace. -DrG