ADMIN: list statistics
I gathered some list statistics for the subscriber base as of Thursday, February 3, 1994, 12:00 noon. 657 subscription addresses total. 49 contain the string 'cypher' and are suspected gateways, either to individuals or large groups, so the exact amount is extremely hard to pin down. Here are the subscribers, broken down by top-level domain 300 com USA commercial 204 edu USA educational 25 org USA organizational 18 ca Canada 15 net networks 13 us USA geographical 10 uk United Kingdom 9 uucp UUCP links 8 se Sweden 7 gov USA government 7 au Australia 6 fi Finland 5 no Norway 4 de Denmark 3 mil USA military 3 it Italy 2 fido Fidonet 2 za South Africa 2 mx Mexico 1 ve Venezuela 1 su USSR (er, someone call a NIC) 1 si ( ? Slovenia ? ) 1 sg Singapore 1 nl Netherlands 1 jp Japan 1 in India 1 ie Ireland 1 hk Hong Kong 1 gb United Kingdom 1 fr France 1 es Spain 1 ee ? 1 ec Ecuador If anybody knows for sure where SI and EE are, I'd love to know. My list of ISO country codes is a little old. Here are the top individual domain names. We can see who has market share, at least. 51 netcom.com 16 aol.com 9 mcimail.com 8 well.sf.ca.us 7 delphi.com 6 world.std.com 5 umich.edu 5 shell.portal.com 5 microsoft.com 5 cleveland.Freenet.Edu 5 CompuServe.COM 4 phantom.com 4 panix.com 4 gnu.ai.mit.edu 4 crl.com 4 apple.com 3 ucsu.Colorado.EDU 3 toad.com 3 prodigy.com 3 nyx.cs.du.edu 3 mason1.gmu.edu 3 engin.umich.edu 3 ecf.toronto.edu 3 anon.penet.fi 3 access.digex.com 3 CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Happy lack of trails. Eric
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 3 Feb 1994, Eric Hughes wrote:
1 si ( ? Slovenia ? ) 1 ee ?
If anybody knows for sure where SI and EE are, I'd love to know. My list of ISO country codes is a little old.
si = Slovenia (you were right) ee = Estonia Source: The Big Dummy's Guide to the Internet Adam Gaffin and Jorg Heitkotter Available at ftp.eff.org ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> In the United States, they \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> first came for us in Colorado... - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLVGO553BsrEqkf9NAQFd6AQAiu8TlrJ5ZU52vpfvMrS/YMYaCZCc6uZ2 yLoUcWBsv4FSbk2pXwjMTacWBvvFonKntwUT3GtWB0GRUqRzLCOYRG5cqcb0iPgC uK8BXhyTXcHxZXAfSW+qI53z+4dwCb9Tc/WRihkNuS+RaPWIBIllLRxtyiUQKopr fTDAVeWr7OM= =Jhqu -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Followups to me have yielded the following info: SI = Slovenia EE = Estonia One subscriber each. Thanks to Tomaz and Stephen for the info. Eric
FIRST CYPHERPUNKS VIRTUAL MEETING AT BAYMOO The first cypherpunks virtual conference will be held at BayMOO on Wednesday, February 9, at 8pm PST (11 EST). To get there: telnet (or use a client) mud.crl.com 8888 Follow instructions for login. Type help for any topic when you get into the MOO. @go Cypherpunk Central to get to the main room, then type HALL to get to the conference hall. One of the virtues of this hall is that there can be large scale AND small scale discussions going on at the same time. Here, briefly, is how it works: A. People login and go the Cypherpunk Hall B. One person can assume the facilitator's chair. This allows the facilitator to set several options for the room's function. C. In one mode, the facilitator allows open conversation: any can speak, and all can be heard. D. In another mode, the facilitator sets the allowable number of speakers. Those wishing to speak must request permission from the facilitator, who can set the number anywhere from one on up. Those wishing to speak must request, and are given a place in line; when any of the current speakers yield, the next in line move up automatically to speaker status. E. BUT -- and here is the ingenious feature of this conference room-- folks can sit in any of 8 rows. If they speak while sitting in those rows and the room is in facilitated mode, only those sitting in their row can hear them. The net effect is that small conversations can take place within the larger room, but they do not interrupt the main course of the moderated discussion. F. In addition, the virtual meeting room also has a built-in [about] function. This feature allows all participants to indicate, by a bracketed phrase in front of their names, the topic under discussion. In this way, if the subject begins to drift, explicit acknowledgement of the change can be made in the [about] header. Example: agore [about clipperchips]: So you see, we really have your welfare at heart. hthoreau [about clipperchips]: I decline your help. agore [about help]: Are you arguing that the government should just let illicit operations take place unmonitored? hthoreau [about interference]: That depends... This conference hall is still beta, so be patient if buglets appear. I'll also try to put in a virtual bar for more laid-back chat. The bar will be connected to Cypherpunk Central. Just examine the bartender to see how to order drinks -- or to concoct your own. Hope to see you there!
Is a MOO really the best method to carry out the virtual meeting? My expierience has been that they are most unfriendly, espicially if you are clientless. I'd think a series of IRC channels would work better, but maybe I'm wrong. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> In the United States, they \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> first came for us in Colorado... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*)
Is a MOO really the best method to carry out the virtual meeting? My expierience has been that they are most unfriendly, espicially if you are clientless.
I'd think a series of IRC channels would work better, but maybe I'm wrong.
Have to agree 100%. Julf
The first cypherpunks virtual conference will be held at BayMOO on Wednesday, February 9, at 8pm PST (11 EST). To get there:
Count me out. Yes, I like to participate in physical Cypherpunks meetings. Yes, I like to participate over e-mail. If I really have to, I can waste time using IRC. But I do *not* have enough patience to hang out in any cute virtual restroom line in some virtual bar in some virtual game... We already have enough of the dreaded freenet virtual cafe stuff around - it's like using virtual punched cards.... Ack! Julf
participants (6)
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Arthur Chandler -
hughes@ah.com -
Johan Helsingius -
Jon 'Iain' Boone -
Robert A. Hayden -
Tomaz Borstnar