I just finished watching--and videotaping--the 11.5 minute report by Philip Elmer-Dewitt on Clipper and related topics. The MacNeil-Lehrer Newshour should be in your area several more times today...around the dinner period, later, etc. Here in Bay Area, it comes on at 5, at 6, and as late as 10 and 11. "Check your local listings." An even-handed report, with brief statements from Marc Rotenberg, Lynn McNulty, Dave Banisar, Dorothy Denning, Whit Diffie, Jerry Berman, and a Dept. of Justice guy. "A bad idea" vs. ""Folly to let intercept capabilities be lost." Some nice aerial shots of Fort Meade, NSA. A demo of AT&T's SecurePhone 3600. A brief explanation of Clipper. I won't type in the quotes from the folks above. See the report for yourself. No major surprises. Except perhaps Marc Rotenberg's clear statement that after Clipper and Digital Telephony will come "restrictions on noncomplying cryptography." (Surprising in that it's a bold prediction. One we all have suspected is the case, but a public statement--which the report did not have a refutation of--all the same.) Tim-Bob says "Check it out!" -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."