... The main criticism I had of this was the fact that the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1 BTC, which at the time was somewhere around $1000.=C2=A0 This, contrasti= ng with my Assassination Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing = bits of 10 cents. Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trust=
On 1/14/16, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote: the
system?=C2=A0 How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?=C2=A0 Ho= w to collect?I never tried to research into this, because I judged that to do so would = be a little too 'hot' for me to do.
i am curious how you arrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)>h= ow do you pick where to draw that line?>*he says with a toe on something ve= ry hot...* It was more of an educated guess. =C2=A0I knew that I hadn't been promoting= AP, yetsomebody was seemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying t= hey were. =C2=A0Themost likely scenario, given that this person had contact= ed me, is that he (they) weresimply trying to discredit me. =C2=A0To avoid = that happening, and to 'kill two birds withone stone', I threw that hot pot= ato to Andy Greenberg. =C2=A0(I was not at all happy with=C2=A0Greenberg, w= ho greatly misrepresented 'facts' about me in his book). =C2=A0 I figuredth= at Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, which would allow me t= o usehis negligence to discredit him. =C2=A0Very surprisingly, to me, Green= berg actually wrotean article and published in Forbes! =C2=A0Literally with= in hours, many dozen other=C2=A0articles appeared in other media, and in th= e end it probably was hundreds of articlesover the next year or so.
=C2=A0 Did any donations actually appear on the system after its initial announcement?=C2=A0 Did any new names/targets a= ppear? there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful, yet my attempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/ maybe i didn't pay enough... ? =C2=A0>=C2=A0https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi= 1GdZ4JZG73T I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articles publishing = details. =C2=A0But no,all the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenber= g's. =C2=A0 So, I learned very little. =C2=A0ButI _DID_ learn that that sys= tem wouldn't be successful: =C2=A0At the very least, it would have hadto co= nvince the public that they could trust the system to operate reliably, and= that neveroccurred.The only public criticism I voiced was the fact that th= e system didn't accept individual donationslower than 1 BTC. =C2=A0Most peo= ple would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, ordollar into= a wishing well. =C2=A0But nearly $1000? =C2=A0Highly unlikely. =C2=A0It wa= s one choice that virtually=C2=A0guaranteed failure, even if everything els= e was done right.=C2=A0I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Eth= ereum, which if they meet their impliedpromises, will actually do the job. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Jim Bell
</b> jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_= 1453193975825_33787" class=3D""><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33789"= class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14= 53193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">On 1/14/16, jim bell <<a re= l=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" target= =3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com" style=3D"color: rgb(25, 106,= 212);" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33792" class=3D"">jdb10987@yahoo.c= om</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33794"= class=3D"">>> ... The main criticism I had<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33796" class=3D"">>> of this was the fact t= hat the system was said to have a minimum bid of 1<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"= yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33798" class=3D"">>> BTC, which at the tim= e was somewhere around $1000. This, contrasting with<br clear=3D"none= " id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33800" class=3D"">>> my Assassinat= ion Politics essay of 1995-96 where I anticipated allowing bits<br clear=3D= "none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33802" class=3D"">>> of 10 ce= nts.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33804" class=3D"">&= gt;> Assassination Market did not explain a lot of what I had considered= <br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33806" class=3D"">>&= gt; necessary for a functioning such system. How can a potential donor trus= t the<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33808" class=3D"">= >> system? How can a potential 'predictor' trust the system?&nb= sp; How to collect?I<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_338= 10" class=3D"">>> never tried to research into this, because I judged=
>there were a few targets added, "bid" transactions successful,<br clea= r=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33844" class=3D"">>yet my at= tempt to add my own life to list was for naught. :/<br clear=3D"none" id=3D= "yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33846" class=3D"">>maybe i didn't pay enough= ... ?<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33848" class=3D"">= > <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href= =3D"https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG7= 3T" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3242" style=3D"color: rgb= (25, 106, 212);" class=3D"">https://blockchainbdgpzk.onion/address/1P6yannm= 6Rx9kkMH5LxmAsi1GdZ4JZG73T</a></div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_= 3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33852" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" id= =3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font= -size: 16px;">I expected to, within a few weeks or months, read many articl= es publishing details. But no,</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245= 22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">a= ll the rest were seemingly just rehashes of Greenberg's. So, I learn= ed very little. But</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_= 0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">I _DID_ lear= n that that system wouldn't be successful: At the very least, it woul= d have had</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939758= 25_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">to convince the public that=
------=_Part_8165805_859808685.1453236891869 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f= ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, = sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1= _1453193975825_3000" style=3D"font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><font size=3D"2"= face=3D"Arial" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2999" class= =3D""><b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32522" class=3D""><span id=3D"yui= _3_16_0_1_1453193975825_32521" class=3D"">From:</span></b> coderman &l= t;coderman@gmail.com><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33783" class= =3D""><b id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3053" class=3D""><sp= an id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_3052" class=3D"">To:</span= that to do so would be a<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_145319397582= 5_33812" class=3D"">>> little too 'hot' for me to do.<br clear=3D"non= e" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33814" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id= =3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33816" class=3D"">>i am curious how you a= rrived at a determination of what was "too hot" :)</div><div class=3D"" id= =3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;= ">>how do you pick where to draw that line?</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y= iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">>= ;*he says with a toe on something very hot...*</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y= iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><br= id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33821" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" i= d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon= t-size: 16px;">It was more of an educated guess. I knew that I hadn't= been promoting AP, yet</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_= 1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">somebody was s= eemingly trying to bring it into reality, or saying they were. The</d= iv><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">most likely scenario, given that this p= erson had contacted me, is that he (they) were</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"y= iv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size= : 16px;">simply trying to discredit me. To avoid that happening, and = to 'kill two birds with</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_= 1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">one stone', I = threw that hot potato to Andy Greenberg. (I was not at all happy with= </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2= 964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">Greenberg, who greatly misrepre= sented 'facts' about me in his book). I figured</div><div class=3D""= id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f= ont-size: 16px;">that Greenberg wouldn't do anything with this contact, whi= ch would allow me to use</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0= _1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">his negligenc= e to discredit him. Very surprisingly, to me, Greenberg actually wrot= e</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" = dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">an article and published in Forbes! = Literally within hours, many dozen other </div><div class=3D"" i= d=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon= t-size: 16px;">articles appeared in other media, and in the end it probably= was hundreds of articles</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_= 0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">over the nex= t year or so.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939= 75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;"><div class=3D"" id=3D"yi= v2501824522yqtfd97789"><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_= 33836" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33838= " class=3D"">>> Did any donations actually appear on the<br cle= ar=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33840" class=3D"">>> sys= tem after its initial announcement? Did any new names/targets appear?= </div><br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33842" class=3D""= they could trust the system to operate reliably, and that never</div><div = class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" = style=3D"font-size: 16px;">occurred.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv25018245= 22yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">T= he only public criticism I voiced was the fact that the system didn't accep= t individual donations</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1= _1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">lower than 1 BT= C. Most people would be willing to throw a penny, nickel, dime, quart= er, or</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2= 964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">dollar into a wishing well. &nb= sp;But nearly $1000? Highly unlikely. It was one choice that vi= rtually </div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_14531939= 75825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">guaranteed failure, even= if everything else was done right.</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182452= 2yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">&n= bsp;I am now, however, paying attention to Auger and Ethereum, which if the= y meet their implied</div><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv2501824522yui_3_16_0_1_1= 453193975825_2964" dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-size: 16px;">promises, will ac= tually do the job.<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33865= " class=3D""> Jim Bell<br clear=3D"none" id=3D"y= ui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33867" class=3D""><div class=3D"" id=3D"yiv250182= 4522yqtfd92150" dir=3D"ltr"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453193975825_33870" cla= ss=3D""></div></div></div></body></html> ------=_Part_8165805_859808685.1453236891869--
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