Re: Fate of Jews in America (fwd)
Cypherpunks are in no position to make remarks about Jewish racism. Jews were far more welcoming to such as Sammy Davis, Jr. than many cypherpunks would be. "Off my porch, nigger!" would be the undoubted greeting from some of our ostensible leaders, as they take shotgun in hand.
Any Mouse wrote:
Cypherpunks are in no position to make remarks about Jewish racism.
Jews were far more welcoming to such as Sammy Davis, Jr. than many cypherpunks would be. "Off my porch, nigger!" would be the undoubted greeting from some of our ostensible leaders, as they take shotgun in hand.
As the Austin Stable Leader of the Cypherpunks Cult of One (Playtypus Chapter), I demand to know if you are speaking for _all_ cypherpunks critics, or just for yourself. {Don't bother replying either by private email, or to the list, as long as you put the answer on your hard drive, I'll find it. LongFacedMustachioedCypherpunk(:-I>}HallowedLiterMonger
At 11:35 PM -0700 9/2/97, Anonymous wrote:
Cypherpunks are in no position to make remarks about Jewish racism.
Jews were far more welcoming to such as Sammy Davis, Jr. than many cypherpunks would be. "Off my porch, nigger!" would be the undoubted greeting from some of our ostensible leaders, as they take shotgun in hand.
If the nigger demanded entrance to my porch, or snuck in at night, then I would indeed fill the nigger with buckshot. Ditto for the honkey. Or the slope. If, however, the black or white or whatever acted in a nonthreatening, nondemanding, mutually voluntary way, why would I care what his melanin level was? Nothing in this "Sammy Davis" you refer to suggests he forced his way onto anyone's porch. (If he did, then of course he should have been shot dead.) There are blacks in the Cypherpunks group. some of whom have come to CP meetings in the Bay Area. I don't recall anyone chasing them off with shotguns or AR-15s, or even making racist comments. (It is true that the vast majority of Cypherpunks are basically libertarian, and hence are not keen on government programs to favor one race or sex or group over another. Jesse Jackson calls this point of view "racism." "Ending discrimination in favor of some races is racism," he claims. Most list members would reject this.) Besides, in a society with strong crypto, how are you or any government going to stop people from dealing with whomever they wish, on whatever basis they wish? --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
Besides, in a society with strong crypto, how are you or any government going to stop people from dealing with whomever they wish, on whatever basis they wish?
and in a society with ubiquitous internet access there will be no way to =know= what color someone is unless he advertises it in his sig file. ---------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------ Name: amp E-mail: amp@pobox.com Date: 09/03/97 Time: 10:54:11 Visit me at http://www.pobox.com/~amp == -export-a-crypto-system-sig -RSA-3-lines-PERL #!/bin/perl -sp0777i<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$k"SK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp"|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) == 'Drug Trafficking Offense' is the root passphrase to the Constitution. Have you seen http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum ------------------------
At 8:54 AM -0700 9/3/97, amp@pobox.com wrote:
Besides, in a society with strong crypto, how are you or any government going to stop people from dealing with whomever they wish, on whatever basis they wish?
and in a society with ubiquitous internet access there will be no way to =know= what color someone is unless he advertises it in his sig file.
"On the Internet no one knows you're a nigger." (Lest anyone be offended, I'm using the vernacular used by colored people. And I'm paraphrasing the famous cartoon. And I'm using strong language to make the point as some might themselves make it.) And this point isn't even strictly true, even for dogs. No doubt dogs on the Internet would advertise their pedigrees, as people do. And even race can and is advertised. Also, it is quite possible to imagine the form "racial credentialling" by private entities could take: visual inspections, with digital signatures given. DNA tests, etc. Those who want to hang out with other brothers, or other Aryans, or other Jews, could do so by asking for such credentials, which of course could be formally isolated from one's True Name. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
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