On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, P. Rajaram wrote:

On Nov 29, 10:25pm, attila wrote:

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Subject: Re: The future will be easy to use OK, I have not seen it (like I said, I will get it) or read ipsec.

However, despite the group ego, Sun _does_ listen and Sun does wish to be the leader. If the rest of ipsec group has a specific list, maybe it needs to presented higher up the pole.

There are different groups within Sun. The people pushing SKIP don't talk much with the group building IPv6.

that's a given. NIBM (not invented by ME) syndrome. That is what needs to stop. however, Sun has been playing the game recently of introducing an early product, then coming on with a more standard product. that does not change the fact the twogroups need to talk, and someone needs to coordiante resources. Nothing wrong if SKIP shakes out a few details as they implement, but then it needs to go to the standards.