
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, I just totaled up the "Bring Dimitri to San Francisco" pledges. The pledges add up to an amazing US$681 and some guava pastries. Airfair should be around US$300. That, plus hotel should come in under the amount pledged so far. I'd still like additional pledges, however, I want to be certain we're covered and as an expression of the mood of the list. I intend to front the entire amount myself and then ask the "pledge partners" for a pro rated payment based on the actual cost and their proportionate pledge amount. It's interesting to me that several pledges have come from list members who are far removed from San Francisco. One or two of them plan to attend Dimitri's meeting, but most just want to have it happen. I've only had one request for anonymity, but I have kept names confidential without a clear go-ahead from them. (If you have already pledged or pledge in the future, please let me know if you mind if I post your name/nym.) Now there's only one thing missing--Dimitri's response. My open letter to him contained an explicit and unambiguous invitation to address a Cypherpunk meeting on any topic he wanted. I asked him for a clear yes or no, but have received nothing. Perhaps Dimitri prefers shooting from ambush. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Dimitri wrote:
I already responded more times than this threat warranted
I'm totally nonplused. Does anyone on the list have any idea what Dimitri is talking about? Has he posted a RESPONSIVE answer to my invitation? If so, I never saw it. Does anyone have any idea why Dimitri uses the term "threat"? I have not threatened Dimitri and I have indicated that as my guest he will be under the mantle of my protection. He'll be safer here than he is in his own bed.
Note that I've received threats of frivolous lawsuits in connection with your offer, as I just pointed out.
Assuming /arguendo/ that such threats have been made, I hereby request that anyone making such threats desist. I further pledge that I will personally hire a lawyer to defend Dimitri if any such suit is brought in California. (If someone wants to sue Dimitri in New York, now or later, that'll be his problem.) S a n d y "Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once." --William Shakespear, /Julius Caesar/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
C'punks,
I just totaled up the "Bring Dimitri to San Francisco" pledges. The pledges add up to an amazing US$681 and some guava pastries. Airfair should be around US$300. That, plus hotel should come in under the amount pledged so far. I'd still like additional pledges, however, I want to be certain we're covered and as an expression of the mood of the list.
Pledge the rest to an AP fund. :) I'd say that would be a good use of the funds. ============================================================================= + ^ + | Ray Arachelian |FL| KAOS KERAUNOS KYBERNETOS |==/|\== \|/ |sunder@sundernet.com|UL|__Nothing_is_true,_all_is_permitted!_|=/\|/\= <--+-->| ------------------ |CG|What part of 'Congress shall make no |=\/|\/= /|\ | "A toast to Odin, |KA| law abridging the freedom of speech'|==\|/== + v + |God of screwdrivers"|AK| do you not understand? |======= ========================http://www.sundernet.com============================= If the Macintosh is a woman... Then Windows is a Transvestite! ActiveX! ActiveX! Format Hard drive? Just say yes!

Ray Arachelian wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
I just totaled up the "Bring Dimitri to San Francisco" pledges. The pledges add up to an amazing US$681 and some guava pastries. Airfair should be around US$300. That, plus hotel should come
Hey, where did you find such a cheap airfare? A really good friend of mine wants to fly to SF from NY and is looking for cheap deals (if they do not involve too many stops). - Igor.

Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> writes:
Pledge the rest to an AP fund. :) I'd say that would be a good use of the funds.
I guess one can always recognize the Armenian heritage by the homicidal tendencies... --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> writes:
Pledge the rest to an AP fund. :) I'd say that would be a good use of the funds. I guess one can always recognize the Armenian heritage by the homicidal tendencies...
I have homicidal tendencies and I don't have an Armenian Heritage. HTH, HAND. Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@smoke.suba.com
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