pro-crypto govt. people
This year I recall seeing 1 former prosecutor saying that widespread encryption was good and/or that GAK was bad, and 1 military or former military person of fairly high status saying that GAK was bad. Circa 1994-5 I also recall a military or retired miltiary person of rank reporting that very widespread crypto would be a boost to national security. We could really use these people's, and similar people's, words in pro-crypto efforts. Unfortunately, disk problems a while back cost me most of my old mail, including all of these saved items. If anyone has them and/or knows who these people are, please let me know. -- Stanton McCandlish mech@eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation Program Director http://www.eff.org/~mech +1 415 436 9333 x105 (v), +1 415 436 9333 (f) Are YOU an EFF member? http://www.eff.org/join
Andrew Grosso is the former prosecutor. I've also been chatting with Bruce "I wrote the CDA" Taylor to see what his views are, but I suspect he'll fall into line with his pals at the DoJ. Last week after a TV show I was telling Donna Rice-Hughes about how crypto can protect against stalkers, but I don't know if she understood my argument. Others will be able to suggest many more people, I'm sure. I'm still frazzled from my trip. Yesterday I was wandering around Chile's socialist museum; the day before I was climbing an active volcano in the south. //yawn// -Declan At 12:00 -0700 10/16/97, Stanton McCandlish wrote:
This year I recall seeing 1 former prosecutor saying that widespread encryption was good and/or that GAK was bad, and 1 military or former military person of fairly high status saying that GAK was bad. Circa 1994-5 I also recall a military or retired miltiary person of rank reporting that very widespread crypto would be a boost to national security. We could really use these people's, and similar people's, words in pro-crypto efforts. Unfortunately, disk problems a while back cost me most of my old mail, including all of these saved items. If anyone has them and/or knows who these people are, please let me know.
-- Stanton McCandlish mech@eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation Program Director http://www.eff.org/~mech +1 415 436 9333 x105 (v), +1 415 436 9333 (f) Are YOU an EFF member? http://www.eff.org/join
------------------------- Declan McCullagh Time Inc. The Netly News Network Washington Correspondent http://netlynews.com/
At 4:23 pm -0400 on 10/16/97, Lizard wrote:
At 04:08 PM 10/16/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Last week after a TV show I was telling Donna Rice-Hughes about how crypto can protect against stalkers, but I don't know if she understood my argument.
Stick to words of one syllable. Hmmm... "If you make words hard to read, bad men will not find you."
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At 4:23 PM -0400 10/16/97, Lizard wrote:
At 04:08 PM 10/16/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Last week after a TV show I was telling Donna Rice-Hughes about how crypto can protect against stalkers, but I don't know if she understood my argument.
Stick to words of one syllable. Hmmm... "If you make words hard to read, bad men will not find you."
Try that. :)
No, put it in terms she understands: "If you make embarassing words impossible to read, no one will be able to read them on the front page of national newspapers." Best-- Glenn Hauman, BiblioBytes http://www.bb.com/
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At 04:08 PM 10/16/97 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Last week after a TV show I was telling Donna Rice-Hughes about how crypto can protect against stalkers, but I don't know if she understood my argument.
Stick to words of one syllable. Hmmm... "If you make words hard to read, bad men will not find you." Try that. :)
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