Maybe this seems a bit redundant, but is it generally agreed "out there" that the Leahy bill is dead? When originally proposed, the conventional wisdom around here was that the Clinton Maladministration was going to be dead-set against it. (Not a bad guess...) It was also claimed that it couldn't be changed to fix it. (although one of the nyms that claimed this hasn't been seen around here since then...) Since then, most if not all of the people and groups who might otherwise have been in favor of it have, likewise, turned against it. And while the Burns bill isn't totally out of the woods, I assume "we" (the people on the right side of the cryto argument) can all agree that it is at least better than Leahy's booby-trap. So does that spell the end of the Leahy bill? The reason I mention this is because it was my suspicion that, contrary to conventional wisdom, the "anti-crypto" faction designed the Leahy bill to be as anti-crypto as they felt they could pass, including just enough bait to get us to take the hook. Obviously, that tactic failed. However, if I'm right we'll seem some life in the carcass yet. Obviously, this is a highly longshot prediction. "Nobody" is supposed to be for the Leahy bill now. But I'm reminded of the last 20 minutes of the movie, "Terminator"... Jim Bell jimbell@pacifier.com