At 7:55 AM 07/01/94 -0400, Duncan Frissell wrote:

J >Similarly my motivations for J >using cryptography come simply from a desire for privacy from J >Govt. and other snooping but NOT from the 'cyber-survivalist' J >inclinations that seem to motivate some in the US at least.

Distinguish "desire for privacy from Govt." and "'cyber-survivalist' inclinations" -- seems like the identical motive. It *is* government that digital volunteerists (a friendlier term) seek privacy from.

The same as "desire for safety from thugs" and "NRA-Nut". I don't subscribe to the theory that I need to have a gun to keep myself safe, and I am antigun, but such as the US is now, I can see myself buying one under some ocnditions and being first in line to hand it over when they are finally outlawed. But I don't need a flak jacket, grenades, a bullet prrof car, etc. I may need crypto to keep my privacy, even though I believe in theory that it shouldn't be nessessary, but I don't need all the other bullshit (sorry if I'm stepping on anyone) 'cyber-survivalist' indicates. -j -- "Blah Blah Blah" ___________________________________________________________________ Jamie Lawrence <jamiel@sybase.com>