That internet guy who handed out the flyer was in NYC. at the last internet expo at Javitz. I don't know how much setting up a booth would cost, however, doing it that way is not as effective as simply handing out disks to every Joe Yuppie who goes out the door. People will visit whatever booths they are interested in. However someone handing out disks as to those who walk out is far more likely to get the disks accepted as they are freebies. Especially if the target is ignorant to crypto and Billary. :-) At some point he may try the hypertext thinggie, if it sparks some interest he may look and use the software. If he doesn't recycle the disks, he may pass them on to others... At some point some big cheeze will get his hands on it, and start worrying about how the WireTap act, Clipper and other issues may affect his company. (Don't forget to include a mention that we suspect that Clipper has other back doors beside the key-escrow and "Imagine how much damage a hacker who tripps over this back door can do to your COMPANY!!! The old FUD method...) Disks, in bulk are cheap and we can get them preformatted. I have (a long time ago) written a disk image duplicator program called DIM (BTW: I lost the sources to the most recent version, so I don't plan to update it anymore) but we can use it to mass duplicate disks. If we could get just four-five folks in every expo to chip in $20 do the duplication and distribution, we can have an effective awareness raising campaign.. MEI Microcenter sells preformatted (DOS) disks in bulk for $0.39 cents! Two $20 contributions can buy about 100 disks! That's quite a lot of people to wake up. The biggest problem is designing the software to be in the form of animation so it'll be watched. Plain text is nice too, but not everyone has the time to read. Most folks like TV and like to vegetate infornt of the TV. If we can have a self running animated demo of sorts (without having to install to the guys hard drive!) and still have enough room for neat stuff like PGP and SecureDrive and such, we have got it made. Another issue is printing flyers to go with the disks so we can get them interested in viewing/copying the disks. (Perhas include a program to duplicate the disks on the demo disk so that the DOS virgins can spread the disk...) Also, we need to have professional looking labels on the disks. I'd be weary of accepting a disk that has a cheap looking label. My 1st reaction would be "Is this a trojan???" Quality control and virus checking MUST be included in the package. Perhaps when the program 1st runs it can do a CRC of all the files on the disk to make sure that they have not been altered and tell the viewer of this... Once we have the collection of programs ready, I can ftp a disk image over to a few FTP sites so that other cypherpunks can join in on the fun. (Also a postscript file for the flyers and such...) 1st things 1st, I reccomend that Secure Drive 1.3x and PGP 2.3x and PGPShell are on the disk. Are there any other crypto packages that your average y yuppie, (possibly ODS virgin) would find useful? Remember that we need enough space on the disk to include clipper articles. We probably can't distribute the New York Times articles, so we'll have to write our own (and insert the FUD factor!!!) We need to write/use a freeware hypertext/hypermedia program to list, print, and extract those files. A small disk copy program can be included which would simply read in the whole disk, ask the viewer for a blank, formatted disk and write to it. We can use the user's hard drive for temp space (check the DOS TEMP variable 1st!) possibly XMS and EMS so that the user doesn't have to swap disks. Batch files are neat but may not always work right on every machine. Keep in mind that with the DOS wars we can't use any special features found in any DOS above 3.30 (DR DOS, IBM DOS, MS-DOS, etc.) We should use EGA/CGA for the demo, (check for EGA and use it!) and use highly compressed, or better yet vector images for the animation so that we don't fill up the disk quickly. We could use text mode graphics and ANSI like pictures, but we'd need our own display program as not all machines have ANSI installed, and we can't ask a DOS virgin to do that. We also don't want to modify the user's hard drive if we can help it as that would keep their fears down.