Export laws don't just affect crypto
The recent posts about GPS made me research the state of the art of GPS receivers. Seems they are getting pretty good. Two pounds, sub-meter accuracy, attitude determination, all at altitudes up to 60,000 feet and speeds up to 1,000 nmph. But what really caught my eye was the fine print at the bottom of the spec sheet: "Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S." I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are welcome to use this technology for applications that require larger than 1,000 nmph speeds. Seems the software industry is not the only industry that's suffering from silly export control laws. --Lucky
Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:
"Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."
I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are welcome to use this technology for applications that require larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.
Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles outside the US? ;-) -- Roger Williams finger me for my PGP public key Coelacanth Engineering consulting & turnkey product development Middleborough, MA wireless * DSP-based instrumentation * ATE tel +1 508 947-8049 * fax +1 508 947-9118 * http://www.coelacanth.com/
On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Roger Williams wrote:
Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:
"Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."
I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are welcome to use this technology for applications that require larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.
Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports by missile. Seriously. --Lucky
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Lucky Green writes:
Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports by missile. Seriously.
Well, not quite -- it exempts exports by space launch, but I think thats intended for things like satelite launchings and not for things like missile attacks against other countries...
And I quote: # (6) A launch vehicle or payload shall not, by reason of the launching of # such vehicle, be considered an export for purposes of this subchapter. # However, for certain limited purposes (see @ 126.1 of this subchapter), # the controls of this subchapter may apply to any sale, transfer or # proposal to sell or transfer defense articles or defense services. - Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMlWELkZRiTErSPb1AQHn6QQAiylUndaqWbsVTScmyzn8dQlWS1vOx8tK mBZlPlz0pvMY8jEi0pxT8PHsF2RI7vCi5yE4Z1PHAPDOUesrQiSZERzAlzRkxXgf t2qn1ZSrlsgIEN50ttDoEu2geF74nakKeb4LtsTAmA7+dfceVZlu9v5sWfcoeAX/ utB5JYLMzz4= =fbOv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Lucky Green writes:
Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles
No you aren't. A little known provision in the ITAR excempts exports by missile. Seriously.
Well, not quite -- it exempts exports by space launch, but I think thats intended for things like satelite launchings and not for things like missile attacks against other countries... .pm
Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> writes:
"Higher altitude and velocities up to 25,000 nautical miles-per-hour options are available in the U.S."
I gather from this that as long as you are in the US, you are welcome to use this technology for applications that require larger than 1,000 nmph speeds.
Umm, so are you violating ITAR if you *use* these GPS-guided missiles outside the US? ;-)
No, only if you _sell_ them (well, give, loan &etc) Hey buddy, can you spare a guided missle... Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@smoke.suba.com
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