Re: Internal Passports
At 12:06 AM 8/6/96 -0700, Marshall Clow wrote:
I have found that promising to provide the necessary docs, and then failing to do so, is the least confrontational and most effective way around this.
"Delay is the deadliest form of denial"
Works for me as well. Likewise, self employment. DCF
Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes:
At 12:06 AM 8/6/96 -0700, Marshall Clow wrote:
I have found that promising to provide the necessary docs, and then failing to do so, is the least confrontational and most effective way around this.
"Delay is the deadliest form of denial"
Works for me as well. Likewise, self employment.
That's the key word here - I don't think you need I-9 if you get paid on 1099 or equivalent. However for W-4 employment, the emplyer must send a signed I-9 to los federales. Otherwise the computer will flag this situation and they'll get a letter asking why they pay wages to someone whose I-9 isn't on file. I suppose when the person is "obviously" U.S.-born, the h.r. people might lie and say on I-9 that they saw a document. Then again, I've seen folks who looked and spoke more American (or German-Swiss, or Romanian) than most natives. :-) By the way, another advantage of 1099 is that if you have your corporation, you give its EIN, not your SSN to the clients, whom you don't necessarily want to know your SSN. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote: | Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com> writes: | > At 12:06 AM 8/6/96 -0700, Marshall Clow wrote: | > | > >I have found that promising to provide the necessary docs, and then failing | > to do so, is the least confrontational and most effective way around this. | > > | > >"Delay is the deadliest form of denial" | > | > Works for me as well. Likewise, self employment. | | That's the key word here - I don't think you need I-9 if you get paid on 1099 | or equivalent. However for W-4 employment, the emplyer must send a signed I-9 This is correct; you don't need an I-9 to work when your wages are reported via a 1099. | to los federales. Otherwise the computer will flag this situation and they'll | get a letter asking why they pay wages to someone whose I-9 isn't on file. The privacy act statement on the I-9 instructions claims that the form will be kept on file by the employer, who can be asked for it by the INS. This 'we keep it on file' was confirmed by a contracting firm with whom I did some work recently. It also has some newspeak that has to be read to be believed. ADam -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume
You can act through a corportion; if you are using it as a true "alter ego", it will be put aside by the courts and you will be assessed back taxes, interest, and penalties. The employer will also. If the person who pays you, has the _right_ (exercised or not) to tell you how to do the work.... you are his employee. This is a summary, but a good one.
Alan Horowitz <alanh@infi.net> writes:
You can act through a corportion; if you are using it as a true "alter ego", it will be put aside by the courts and you will be assessed back taxes, interest, and penalties. The employer will also.
If the person who pays you, has the _right_ (exercised or not) to tell you how to do the work.... you are his employee. This is a summary, but a good one.
Alan, if you have access to Usenet, check out the draft misc.jobs.* conventional wisdom FAQ that I posted a few days ago... It's probably unexpired in sci.research.careers at most sites. Look for the 'IRS 20 questions'. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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