Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids

At 03:49 PM 7/19/96 -0500, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
I may be a little nuts, but does it strike anyone else that a good self defense weapon against ninja raids would be a hand gernade?
Maybe not even a little:)
I suggest wiring an anti-tank mine to your door every night. If ninjas break in, everyone goes to hell. No need to wake up and be alert in sleep -- all will be done automatically. So before that ninja raid you will sleep better.
I've had a substantially better idea. Hang carbon-fiber bundles from the ceiling, which are charged to about 10,000 volts when an intrusion is detected. They'll glom onto anything conductive within their range, and anyone with the bad fortune to be breaking into the house at that moment _might_ live to regret it. (resistors could be added to limit the current to non-fatal but exceedingly painful levels. Jim Bell jimbell@pacifier.com

jim bell wrote:
At 03:49 PM 7/19/96 -0500, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
I may be a little nuts, but does it strike anyone else that a good self defense weapon against ninja raids would be a hand gernade?
Maybe not even a little:)
I suggest wiring an anti-tank mine to your door every night. If ninjas break in, everyone goes to hell. No need to wake up and be alert in sleep -- all will be done automatically. So before that ninja raid you will sleep better.
I've had a substantially better idea. Hang carbon-fiber bundles from the ceiling, which are charged to about 10,000 volts when an intrusion is detected. They'll glom onto anything conductive within their range, and anyone with the bad fortune to be breaking into the house at that moment _might_ live to regret it. (resistors could be added to limit the current to non-fatal but exceedingly painful levels.
It the voltage is 10000 volts, it is always fatal, right? And if you set good enough resistors, then the voltage for the human body itself would be much less than 10000V -- most of the voltage will be taken by resistors themselves. Right? - Igor.

On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 ichudov@algebra.com wrote:
It the voltage is 10000 volts, it is always fatal, right? And if you set good enough resistors, then the voltage for the human body itself would be much less than 10000V -- most of the voltage will be taken by resistors themselves.
Dammit Jim, he's a lawyer - not an engineer!

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
It the voltage is 10000 volts, it is always fatal, right? And if you set good enough resistors, then the voltage for the human body itself would be much less than 10000V -- most of the voltage will be taken by resistors themselves.
Right?
Wrong. What kills is not voltage but current. That is why you can safely recieve a static shock (on the order of thousands of volts, but microamperes) and yet still be killed by ordinary AC power (110 volts here, a whole lot of amps available :). - --Elliot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMfBqGiaSlK8942+NAQGVXAQApub7Av5NJhhaT+GFvPrdWsjKdRKkciCn waOH51N6J2WvyZHUIrw8amxFBHmjEGIdu9Bx0yngYh7U+ijW4aCP5bOrzf8WYlla zodx6J+4N6aNYFj1q0gt9QRfrQKN4O3/mp8gx6EsyZJfco7/PR1V7MjWR3qzzOng qpCqPquGoXo= =Nujf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, jim bell wrote:
I've had a substantially better idea. Hang carbon-fiber bundles from the ceiling, which are charged to about 10,000 volts when an intrusion is detected. They'll glom onto anything conductive within their range, and anyone with the bad fortune to be breaking into the house at that moment _might_ live to regret it. (resistors could be added to limit the current to non-fatal but exceedingly painful levels.
Cutting off the power supply would render this method useless very quickly. Oh, so you are going to use batteries? That "when an intrusion is detected" part sounds rather interesting... Wouldn't be too hard to either befuddle. The point is: - You cannot be alert at all times. - Even if you can, you cannot cover all possibilities with a 100% ensurance of safety. IOW, if a 'pre-dawn unannounced ninja raid' [sic] occurs on you, you are pretty well beat, if only because the other side knows what they are doing and you have no idea of their plans. The only protection against lawlessness is not lawlessness, it is reason. - -- Elliot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMfBpeCaSlK8942+NAQH3cQQAz3gcbfA+qjNuAA9BteO7lxAEKO8QMV9o vlunLDuZFQtWSVLvhcRR6GDw4gRfxeIswzVAqMIvcQ1vrwCYkhlctA1Thaoep16a EX95eQ3Os9W24WIVUSW5e16AWczHEzLBeiVX0TBHN+Pqx8JuN5WHOH6yY/+txNht C287kJI+4Sw= =9/er -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Elliot Lee wrote:
IOW, if a 'pre-dawn unannounced ninja raid' [sic] occurs on you, you are pretty well beat, if only because the other side knows what they are doing and you have no idea of their plans. The only protection against lawlessness is not lawlessness, it is reason.
I'm probably starting to sound a little bellish on this, but that is why I suggested (only half in jest) the hand gernade. A pyrrhic victory is still a victory. Of course I am a little nuts. Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@smoke.suba.com
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