I do love to learn, I just wish it didn't have to involve pageing through many bounce messages. I have learned that most mailer programs are unhappy with very long reply-to addresses. You can rely on about 200 to 300 chars, no more. Too bad -- it looks like the real easy hack won't work for too many hops. It should work through two remailers each with 512 bit keys, or one with 1024 bit key. One reply I got mentioned that author's previous experiments along these lines. (I am not mentioning the author's name so as to keep their private message private.) They mentioned trouble with the reply-to field hack I tried; some mailers wee dropping the nice long magic numbers. They said the most reliable field was the subject field. I bet many mail agents are unhappy with long subjects too. Hopefully they support subjects atlease as long as reply-to fields. j' -- O I am Jay Prime Positive jpp@markv.com 1250 bit fingerprint B06229 = B8 95 E0 AF 9A A2 CD A5 89 C9 F0 FE B4 3A 2C 3F 524 bit fingerprint 2A915D = 8A 7C B9 F2 D5 46 4D ED 66 23 F1 71 DE FF 51 48 Public keys via `finger jpp@markv.com', or via email to pgp-public-keys@io.com Your feedback is welcome directly or via my symbol JPP on hex@sea.east.sun.com Resist the Clipper Chip, write "I oppose Clipper" to Clipper.petition@cpsr.org