Congratulations! I consider the "Clipper Chip retreat" a victory for the Cypherpunks, EFF, and inhabitants of cyberspace. We have succeeded in a tactic often used by three letter agencies... Stall! The "stall" tactic lets you re-supply, regroup and plan the next attack . This event slows the government down and will provide the inhabitants of cyberspace more time to develop a defacto encryption system (PGP, RIPEM, PEM, etc) that will overshadow any scheme deployed by government. It also gives us time to continue the fight against "Key-escrow" and government back doors. This message may be a little premature but if true, we should be ready for the next offensive. (yes offensive). This bit of information also makes me wander what their next move might be. It could be... "NEWS FLASH... Drug lord goes free because he is using non-key-escrow crypto..." ... __o .. -\<, chris.claborne@sandiegoca.ncr.com ...(*)/(*). CI$: 76340.2422 PGP Pub Key fingerprint = A8 FA 55 92 23 20 72 69 52 AB 64 CC C7 D9 4F CA Avail on Pub Key server.