Re: Mail-Future Free Remailers
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Karl writes:
People often like to postulate on the list that eventually there won't be any more of these philantropic free remailers, and people will be charging small amounts for every remailed message, to make some money off it. I've thought of a pretty good reason why this might not ever happen. [...] one's primary reason might be to ensure oneself anonymity.
Interesting point... I guess that is a good reason why free anonymous remailers might not ever die out, but pay remailers may be able to offer enhanced features and services that would tend to attract the vast majority of customers (assuming such a service would be considered as valuable by enough people ;)
In actuality having only purely commercial remailers in a chain would likely lead to security concerns of the following nature. When remailers end up requiring postage, people will tend to use the cheapest remailers to cut down on costs. Who will be in a position to offer the cheapest rates under a commercial proposition? Someone who has deep pockets, perhaps? An entity that really doesn't rely on profit to stay in business? Our own governmental TLA's could attract much remailer traffic by offering unbeatable prices (with our own taxes), even a modest price edge skews traffic in their favor. This speaks highly for the "every man a remailer" concept. If you know people who run remailers and trust that they are not compromised, a mix of commercial and philanthropic remailers may actually be the most secure chain of remailers to use. One could then safely use the price edge of the commercial remailers and the advanced features they offer and at the same time thwart the TLA planted remailers attempts to trace traffic (at least ideally). This could be done by inserting personally trusted philanthropic remailers into the chain in strategic places. Hal has been mentioning such strategic placement of remailers which is very interesting indeed. Since I leave for Honduras tommorrow I must soon unsubscribe until the 23rd so that I don't usurp all available disk space on our system with cpunks mail while I'm gone. All the organized mayhem on the list will be missed (but I'm not giving up diving in Roaton for it!) see you guys later. Vaccinia@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBLkkMAz2paOMjHHAhAQFMFQP/er5g6MCw74epniILFOLR2U8TkzDtRDJB KeZU4ghq+FxZVLjOrFUS6ofDAddwnLE4fPG6cFX3L5vRFowh8p+UzbjVNL/uS2Zv Ac5BtIEylRC0kPMwFxc+SiiijJq1qfmdz/RiCE7yD4Vp6pv4Kqps40JmSy1HDC3B 3HvgSqCKu90= =SKvc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
while I'm gone. All the organized mayhem on the list will be missed (but I'm not giving up diving in Roaton for it!) see you guys later.
Vaccinia@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu
"Gone to Roaton," eh? A nicely Cypherpunkish ring to that phrase, reminiscent of the cryptic "Gone to Croatan" message that was all that was left of the vanished first English colony in the New World. --Tim -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."
On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
while I'm gone. All the organized mayhem on the list will be missed (but I'm not giving up diving in Roaton for it!) see you guys later.
Vaccinia@uncvx1.oit.unc.edu
"Gone to Roaton," eh?
A nicely Cypherpunkish ring to that phrase, reminiscent of the cryptic "Gone to Croatan" message that was all that was left of the vanished first English colony in the New World.
Cute but it actually wasn't that cryptic since it refered to a local Native tribe. To this day, there are members of tribes in that area with English names and European physical traits. The first American cultural drop-outs. Wes thu hal, Al Billings -- Al Billings mimir@io.com http://io.com/user/mimir/asatru.html Nerd-Alberich Admin for Troth - The Asatru E-mail List Lord of the Nerd-Alfar Sysop of The Sacred Grove - (206)322-5450 Poetic-Terrorist Lodge-Master, Friends of Loki Society
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