Carl Ellison posted here: If all you're worried about is entrapment, you need only ask the person in question if s/he works for any law enforcement or surveillance agency. If they lie, then anything after that is entrapment. I'm not a lawyer but I learned this from my masseuse in SLC UT, where mixed-gender massage is considered a "sex act for hire" and she was constantly subject to entrapment. I'm not at all sure if the above is true. This came up on this list a few months ago when I was suggesting that people might put a statement, "I am/am not a Law Enforcement Officer or Agent" as part of a "certificate of identity" they could mail to verify their PGP public key. At that time I think the concensus was that a LE officer could sign (the negative form of) the statement and still observe crimes and give testimony. One example given was undercover narcotics officers who could not answer affirmatively without jeopardizing their lives. One defense attorney on another net told me that the entrapment defense is rarely used anymore; "it's easier just to plead your client guilty." Apparently all the prosecuton has to show is that the defendant had a "pre-existing disposition" to commit the crime. Duncan Frissel, can you shed more light on this??? -- edgar@spectrx.saigon.com (Edgar W. Swank) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca