Gary Jeffers proposes a system to perform remailing and chat-session relay which, among other proposed features, propagates itself by virus and worm approaches; the important issue is not the precise semantics of the differences, but that the thing tries to spread itself and run without the help or even permission of the owners of the machines it tries to run on. This is bad. It's offensive to try and run your stuff on people's machines without asking them or informing them. It can break stuff, it can hog their resources for your application (which is no more pro-freedom than having them hog your resources wihtout permission), and it's *so bloody unnecessary*! If you make a system that's easy to install and propagates information about how to get a copy of it (e.g. by sending header or signature lines in any mail it remails), then you can still propagate your software, but you can do it as a good guy rather than a bad guy. I have no more desire to have a "FREEDOM VIRUS" appear on my systems than a "BIG BROTHER VIRUS". Bill