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One amusing note. To buy time on this "service," one is presented with a form which requires one to fill in name, phone number, address, credit card number, and other personal information. Hitting "Submit" sends this form in cleartext to their web server. On the bottom of the form is printed... "All Live Sex Sales are processed using CyberCash Transaction Encryption" While you're counting "Monique"s pussy hairs, the owner of the upstream router will be doing his Christmas shopping on your Mastercard. :) -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <199711282112.PAA13434@wire.insync.net>, on 11/28/97 at 04:12 PM, Eric Cordian <emc@wire.insync.net> said:
Monique writes:
Our new technology allows you to see our girls live and interact with them right in your NETSCAPE 2.2+, INTERNET EXPLORER 3.02, and AOL FOR WINDOWS 95 BROWSERS......
One amusing note. To buy time on this "service," one is presented with a form which requires one to fill in name, phone number, address, credit card number, and other personal information. Hitting "Submit" sends this form in cleartext to their web server.
On the bottom of the form is printed...
"All Live Sex Sales are processed using CyberCash Transaction Encryption"
While you're counting "Monique"s pussy hairs, the owner of the upstream router will be doing his Christmas shopping on your Mastercard. :)
This is one thing I have never understood about the greate concern users have over their CC #'s. If ,as Eric points out , the upstream provider goes Cristmas shopping on your Mastercard it is not the user who is out the money! The person who gets stuck with the bill is the Vendors who sell products to someone who is not authorized to use your card. Of course the hype from the CC card company and those selling services like CyberCash go a long way to explaining this. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://users.invweb.net/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a-sha1 Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNH96Go9Co1n+aLhhAQLWSAQAjtLIf4exAXQJOpq2CdMQXzZvDkwqBKAc nnu9R1/2q1iHiQZWkIi8dxOT/iePlhXQkYQPIzU4ttvQCnuXYwnA+ByHlWkRq+bW 2m7ZhBRfFc2WQ3e7aSWdF/cuwmmpb4JGL+cmzkhRnj6C5M9RnkcB9eDyvZQtP2Ho G3jzZ241MME= =wHay -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
William H. Geiger III writes:
This is one thing I have never understood about the greate concern users have over their CC #'s. If ,as Eric points out , the upstream provider goes Cristmas shopping on your Mastercard it is not the user who is out the money! The person who gets stuck with the bill is the Vendors who sell products to someone who is not authorized to use your card.
Actually, it's the credit card issuer who eats it. The issuer guarantees the merchant payment as long as the charge is approved at the point of sale. This is why merchants almost never care who or what presents the card, as long as the card is valid. The actual owner of the card is also protected against having to pay fradulent charges, as long as he informs the card company in a timely manner if the card is lost, stolen, or misused. The cost of guaranteeing any valid card is as good as cash to the merchant, and holding the consumer harmless for fraud, is born through fees and interest on card balances, and merchant fees for processing credit card transactions. Of course, the attitude of "why should I care if my card is used fradulently, I won't have to pay" raises credit card costs to everyone, as the card companies simply recycle the added expense back to their customers. You may recall a recent news story in which someone collected a huge number of credit card numbers from a major vendor doing business on the Net, and attempted to market them. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"
Eric Cordian <emc@wire.insync.net> writes:
This is one thing I have never understood about the greate concern users have over their CC #'s. If ,as Eric points out , the upstream provider goes Cristmas shopping on your Mastercard it is not the user who is out the money! The person who gets stuck with the bill is the Vendors who sell products to someone who is not authorized to use your card.
Actually, it's the credit card issuer who eats it. The issuer guarantees the merchant payment as long as the charge is approved at the point of sale. This is why merchants almost never care who or what presents the card, as long as the card is valid.
The actual owner of the card is also protected against having to pay fradulent charges, as long as he informs the card company in a timely manner if the card is lost, stolen, or misused.
of course the credit card issuers do this not out of the goodness of their heart but because they're required to by the US gubmint. It's not at all clear if they have to eat the fraudulent charges if the card holder hasn't been following the issuer's instructions.
The cost of guaranteeing any valid card is as good as cash to the merchant, and holding the consumer harmless for fraud, is born through fees and interest on card balances, and merchant fees for processing credit card transactions.
Of course, the attitude of "why should I care if my card is used fradulently, I won't have to pay" raises credit card costs to everyone, as the card companies simply recycle the added expense back to their customers.
You may recall a recent news story in which someone collected a huge number of credit card numbers from a major vendor doing business on the Net, and attempted to market them.
Actually, if you call up your credit card issuer and ask, hypothetically, what would happen if you transmitted your credit card info over the Internet, and someone got hold of them, and charged lots of money. Don't assume that they have to eat it. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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